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Note to Stone, dont you DARE trade our pick for Ben Simmons

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hakeemthagreat, Jun 24, 2021.

  1. hakeemthagreat

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    Around 4:45 its mentioned rumors are possible Wall, Gordon & #2 for Brick Simmons. If Stone does this hes purposely trying to get fired. This is a HORRIFIC rumor and needs to die. NOBODY WANTS SIMMONS!!!

     
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    "Sportsmap Houston" doesn't have any sources, they're a couple of dudes with enough money to afford production gear. Their rumors are baseless and pure speculation
     
  3. Rudyc281

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    We didn’t trade them harden for him no reason to now…unless it doesn't involve 2nd pick.
     
  4. Rockets34Legend

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    Stone would be a dumb ass to do it. He needs to rebuild this team to be a contender again. Don't get that wallaby a-hole Simmons.
     
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    Terrible false rumor.
     
  6. saleem

    saleem Contributing Member

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    It's probably Lakers, Mavs, Knicks driven propaganda. Stone didn't give Harden up for him and Thybulle.
     
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    Zero chance of that happening. Stone didnt trade Harden for Simmons before he got exposed much less now.

    Wall and Simmons make the same amount of money even for LTS persp it doesnt make sense to lose 2nd pick and not save money.
     
  8. jchu14

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    Does anyone have a link to the interview with Kelly Iko he mentioned? I'd like to hear the full context of the rumor. I do trust that Kello Iko has some connections to the NBA rumor mill. I certainly hope this doesn't happen unless it's the 23rd or 24th pick. Doubt Sixers go for that though.
     
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    If this is about getting rid of Wall, we need to have the guts to just hold him for one more year when his value goes from being a net negative to a max expiring trade asset.
     
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  10. Htown Legend

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    Come on man… Rafael WOULD NEVER.

    Didn’t y’all hear the report about “Rockets front office having their chest’s puffed out” after watching Simmon’s horrible performance in their second rd defeat?!

    Seriously though, Simmons is a very limited player. The cat is out the bag. His contract will be an albatross for whichever team is paying it.

    With that number 2 pick- you’re hoping to draft a franchise cornerstone and develop that player into a superstar. Ben Simmons is never gunna be that guy. We know what he is. Stone knows what he is.

    Stone taking the Brooklyn package over the Philly package was the best possible decision he could’ve made. Wall is coming off the books eventually. We need to save cap room for players who you can justify paying big money to.

    Simmon’s contract is unjustifiable with his limitations on the court, IMO.
     
  11. csnerd84

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    That's an interesting one. Would you go for Wall + 23 & 24 for Ben Simmons? I would definitely consider it for sure...
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    I'd do it for Wall and one of the latter picks and a future pick. Then let Silas, Calvin Murphy, Matt Bullard and John Lucas turn Simmons into Luka.
     
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    That's been my position from the day we acquired him .... NO to throwing away any assets to get rid of him.
     
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  14. Audioout

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    I actually think a Wall for Simmons trade makes sense for both of us but not for the #2 pick. Simmons' trade value went way WAY down after these playoffs. He went from surefire All-Star to borderline bust project.

    If we're going for either Green or Mobley we could use a pass first (pass only?) PG that can play defense. The 76ers could really use an experienced scorer to help Embiid. Also, they technically save future cap space in case they need to reset soon as Wall has two less years on his contract.
     
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    Wall and Gordon is ok. If he throws Jalen Green or Cade in it he can go **** himself
     
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    Why? Ben Simmons doesn't make us contenders overnight. Wall's contract isn't great, but the potential impact of the 23rd and 24th pick is worth holding on to. At best I'd give them Wall and the 24th pick. There are so many years on Simmons' contract. Wall's years are manageable.
     
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    Wall, Gordon & #2 for Simmons, you think Morey is nuts?
     
  18. SoupTent3

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    I agree with you. I wouldn't want Ben Simmons at all. He's too much of a liability. You have to be able to shoot in today's modern NBA regardless of the other skills you may have.
     
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    That would be one way to kill all the excitement .
    On a related subject, if this playoff run by Simmons doesn't motivate him to hire a Barry brother and shoot shots while he sleeps then nothing will.
    "I am who I am." What?
     
  20. TEXNIFICENT

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    Wall for Simmons straight up.
     
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