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Please get Rashard Lewis and Troy Murphy.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Got Em, May 16, 2004.

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  1. Got Em

    Got Em Member

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    I think both players are really underrated and would do wonders for our team. As long as we keep yao ming, I'd do whatever I can to get those 2 players. Marko Jaric will be a FA, but I'm not sure if Sterling will pick up his qualifing offer. I hope we can sign him too for relatively cheap.
     
  2. steddinotayto

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    i'm not knocking on your thread but i'd like to see how you propose the rox getting BOTH of them.
     
  3. mrgoubople1

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    How to get troy murphy?
    Houston trades: PG Steve Francis
    PF Maurice Taylor
    SG Adrian Griffin
    PF Scott Padgett
    PG Mike Wilks

    Golden State trades:
    SF Calbert Cheaney
    PF Troy Murphy
    PG Speedy Claxton
    PF Clifford Robinson
    C Adonal foyle
    PG Avery Johnson
    protected 1st rounder

    why?
    houston- gets rid of francis and mo's huge contracts and the useless griffin
    Gets-
    cheaney = griffin + shot - a little defense

    Troy Murphy = a true pf next to yao, can hit the open jumper and rebound, a good double double guy

    Claxton - a sparkplug pg, downgrade from francis but still not horrible at pg

    Clifford - more pf/sf depth, can hit 3 and defend, veteran

    Foyle- backup center for yao, good shot blocker
    avery- leader, backup backup pg.

    1st round pick top 20 protected for the next 2 yrs then lotto protected for 1 yr then top 3 protected then unprotected
    could come in handy sometime since we like dealing 1st rounders out, we finally get one

    Why for GS?
    Rebuilding w/ a new pg in francis gives them an exciting young group of players w/ francis, richardson, pietrus, dunleavy

    mo taylor can score for them
    gets rid of foyle who would leave anyway, and gets rid of extra parts

    lineup
    claxton/jackson/avery
    mobley/jj/cheaney/pike
    jj/nachbar/cliff/cheaney
    murphy/cato/cliff
    yao/foyle/cato

    Gs
    francis/van exel/wilks
    richardson/ pietrus/ francis
    dunleavy/cardinal/pietrus
    mo/popeye jones
    dampier/ eschmeyer
     
  4. xiki

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    What is Seattle's plan? Rumors have them willing (wanting?) to move Lewis. He is expensive. Seattle wants to move Booth. Sonics may want to move Allen.

    Unless and until Seattle's motivations are clear(er) Lewis' availability is in the air. If they want to move him, Rox are a reasonable destination.

    I just don't understand why Warriors would move Murphy unless it helps them control salaries by moving others (Van Exel?).
     
  5. sup123

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    IMO i think rashard is overated
     
  6. xiki

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    If he's on the market, then so too does Seattle.
     
  7. Sane

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    Yes, but then you have nothing to offer Seattle for Rashard.


    How about Francis and part of the TE for Dampier and Troy Murphy?

    Then we turn around and trade Dampier and the rest of the TE to the Sonics for Rashard Lewis and Antonio Daniels?

    Yao/Cato
    Murphy/Cato/MoT
    Rashard/JJ/Boki
    JJ/Mobley/Pike
    Daniels

    I suggest we send MoT to the Celtics for Yogi Stewart and Chris Mihm, whose contracts are expiring soon. This would reduce help keep our cap under control for the future, while bringing in a solid bench PF/C (Mihm). I also suggest we use our MLE on bringing in a PG, maybe Damon Jones or Rafer Alston or someone like that.

    Negatives for this team: Having Troy Murphy and Rashard lewis at your F spots exposes Yao in the defensive end. these guys are not good defensive players, although they are both terriffic rebounders, and lack shotblocking skills or toughness. It helps that Cato and JJ would be backing them up, but it would help even more to butch this team up, maybe by trading MoT and Mobley for Lynch and PJ Brown? Mobley is better than Lynch, and PJ is better than Mo, the Hornets get younger, we get tougher.

    Yao/Cato
    Murphy/PJ/Cato
    Rashard/Lynch/Boki
    JJ/Pike
    Daniels/FA signing

    Wow. That was fun. Now, back to reality...
     
  8. Man

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    Can we get Rasheed Wallace? PLEASE!!! Troy Murphy, Rashard Lewis, Al Harrington..Elton Brand they'd all be nice :)
     
  9. madmonkey37

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    Troy Murphy would be a good fit, has a knack for rebounding and is a pretty damn good shooter, but isnt anywhere as good as cato on the defense and intimidation. There is pretty much no way we are going to get dampier since he will for sure 100% opt out of his contract and probably sign with an eastern conference team, probably Indiana his hometown.

    He would be my primary choice as free agent, but it appears he likes detroit and detroit appears to be wavering over signing either rasheed or Okur since both will be worth maybe 6-7 million a year. Maybe a 2nd round exit will convince rasheed to bolt and join his good friend mobley in houston, for the MLE or we could use the trade exception with a first rounder.
     
  10. gucci888

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    That GS-Hou deal is terrible.

    But getting Lewis is one of my offseason wishes.

    Xiki- I've read that Seattle is willing to part with Lewis if they can get a true PF. They mentioned getting guys like Chandler and K. Brown, and would be willing to trade Rashard for them.

    I wonder if a Cat/MoT/part of TE could net us Lewis and Booth, we don't need Booth, but that makes Cato more expendable.
     
  11. Got Em

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    I heard that if Chicago is willing to trade Eddie Curry, Seattle will give up Lewis. I think if the rockets can trade Francis for Murphy, Pietrius (sp?), and a pick + garbage...Chicago might be willing to part Curry for Pietrius + pick and something else.
     
  12. steddinotayto

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    that's what i don't get though...like if they trade rashard...and dont' resign brent barry...they seriously think they can contend in the west with flip/ray/rad/booth/collison? i mean...that's a pretty good shooting team but they're not really going to contend much IMHO.

    i would imagine they'd like to build around ray and rashard as much as possible...*shrug*....i think the coffee in seattle is making them think stupid things.
     
  13. crossover

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    get lewis, trade francis for okafor

    bring it all back to houston
     
  14. gunn

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    I think you need to be updated. The latest news out of the Bulls camp is that the owner and general manager John Paxson sat down with Eddie and told him that they are going to keep him around. Now as for Tyson and Jamal, apparently they may be on the move.
     
  15. xiki

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    I've also read that, but don't know the level of 'seriousness'. Supposedly Sonics want to move Rado to '3'. Chandler and Brown are paid way less than shard, so any deal would require multiple players. The 'fit' gets tougher, making a deal more improbable.
     
  16. HAYJON02

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    Rashard would be great because we just need guys who can fill it up. Rashards a nice player and makes it harder to leave our forwards. The guys young still, that's money. We could always slide the ever-dependable Jim Jackson over to 2 for some time.
     
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    Houston trades
    Steve Francis
    Eric Piatkowski

    Golden State Trades
    Erick Dampier
    Mike Dunleavy
    Troy Murphy


    I think Golden State might do it. I'd like to get there first rounder too, but I don't think that will happen. Golden State would have one of the best back court's in the game.(Francis, Richardson, Van Exel, Claxton). Houston would get stonger up front(Murphy and Dampier, also making Taylor or Cato tradable) and future SF or SG with all-star potential in Dunleavy.
     
  18. slcrocket

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    I'd love it to happen, but I don't there's ANY way that Golden State does that trade. We only lose Steve Francis (and the whole WORLD knows we're looking to move him) and a bench-warming three-point shooter in Piatkowski. Golden State gives up a great frontcourt presence an awesome rebounder (Dampier), Dunleavy (a double-digit scorer), and Murphy (another double-digit scorer that can create matchup problems with his outside range). I just think they'd be giving up too much considering how much we'd like to trade Francis.

    But here's hoping, anyways. :D
     
  19. vincejas

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    I would love to have a marko jaric in rocket uniform next year. He may not be as athletic and exciting as francis, but at least hes 5x smarter than him. He's coachable and cool. I also want a rashard lewis and an eric dampier or a kurt thomas. Then i will get rid of francis, cuttino, griffin, and cato. The problem is i dont know how.
     
  20. sonique15

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    Damn, i need a powerade.......
     

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