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[EC Semifinals] (2)Brooklyn vs. (3)Milwaukee

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jun 4, 2021.

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Nets vs. Bucks

Poll closed Jun 5, 2021.
  1. Nets in 4

    6.6%
  2. Nets in 5

    9.2%
  3. Nets in 6

    51.3%
  4. Nets in 7

    13.2%
  5. Bucks in 7

    7.9%
  6. Bucks in 6

    10.5%
  7. Bucks in 5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Bucks in 4

    1.3%
  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    WIN against a higher 3rd or 4th seeded team with 2 superstars 1 all star and 1 sharshooter.

    did you cry about Curry's 7 TOs on an elimination LOSS against a 9th seed led by a 2nd year player?

    and you make it sound like 15 of 18 on the line is negative or something.
     
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  2. riko

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    It’s looking like he will play
     
  3. JumpMan

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    Oof. Wasn't planning on watching any NBA tonight. :confused:
     
  4. Reeko

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    wonder what the minutes restriction will be for Harden

    also wondering if the Nets are gonna do the thing they’ve been doing this season when KD and Harden 1st returned earlier where they didn’t enter the game until a few minutes into the 2nd quarter
     
  5. JayGoogle

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    If he comes back and plays tonight he should be applauded but he won't be. Just putting himself out there is a risk...but yeah, gonna be high drama if he plays. It could be his shot at a playoff moment, to come back from an injury, dominate, and then lead his team to a W.

    Either way, it's hard to imagine he'll be able to play much on that hammy. It kind of makes sense though, see if he play long enough for Kyrie to get back. Any two of the big three can win a title this season. At least I think so considering the teams left.
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    So the metric you are using is penalizing him because he had a 35% usage rate (as the primary offensive weapon) and that he played 43 minutes (in a game 7)?

    How does any of that make sense?

    If he did not have such a high usage or did not play that amount of minutes people would be saying they won in spite of him.

    I am not knocking the stat but I question why you think it's the defining statistic.

    Clint Capela and Triston Thompson have better career ORtg than Magic Johnson and Jamal Murray has a better career ORtg than Michael Jordan.

    Harden has a better career ORtg than Kareem.

    So why are we using that stat for anything?

    Thanks again for making my point.
     
  7. durvasa

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    That doesn't make sense, because that's not what I'm saying.

    ORtg is an efficiency stat. To assess how good his stats were, you look at efficiency coupled with usage. A great game is high usage + high efficiency. In this particular game, Harden's game was high usage and low efficiency. If you're looking at raw box score numbers and totally ignore efficiency, then of course the stats will look good due to the high usage / high minutes.

    Now, a lot of those misses and turnovers came in the fourth quarter (0-5 FGs, 3 turnovers) when the Rockets were already up double figures. So, it wasn't too damaging. He was good enough to close out the series at home against a pretty good Clippers team. Fine. He needs more than a few games in late series situations even stronger than that to repair his lackluster playoff reputation, given the nature and extent of the playoff disappointments he's had. The opportunity is there in this Bucks series. Just hope his hamstring can hold up.
     
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  8. HP3

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    Woj just said he's playing.
     
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  9. jiggyfly

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    Since when was anybody talking about efficiency?

    You threw that stat in there to try and prove a point, you have a narrative.

    The point is he had a good to great game in closing out a very talented Clippers team and NOBODY talks about it.

    The other point again is that he is not judged like any other superstar, just look at Davis and CP3, winning is supposed to be the thing that matters yet people like you bring up ORtg.
     
  10. riko

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    Harden was just dunking the ball in warm ups so yeah it’s go time
     
  11. wekko368

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    Nobody talks about it because he didn't have a good game. You're not going to have a "good to great" game when you shoot with poor efficiency.

    Efficiency has been on the table since the beginning. You just choose to continually ignore it.
     
  12. J.R.

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    Chuck guarantees Bucks win…so the Nets got this.
     
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  14. HP3

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    Ugh, Im not feeling this.
     
  15. ksny15

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    Harden is rushing back I'm afraid
     
  16. TheGreat

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    bucks looking good early. Nets with Harden gimpy no chance lol
     
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    Joe Harris is ****ing trash lol
     
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    Put Shamet in, Bruce Brown is out of control.
     
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    Nets looking totally discombobulated. Bucks fouling the **** out of them on every play with no calls.
     
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