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Astros 2021 Season General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 15, 2021.

  1. Bear_Bryant

    Bear_Bryant Member

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    What do you think we should do about the rotation? I know that Odorizzi is piggy backing McCullers this week but I hope the rotation aligns like this:

    Greinke / Bullpen
    McCullers / Javier
    Valdez / Bullpen
    Odorizzi / Garcia
    Urquidy / Bullpen
     
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  2. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

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    They said they’re moving to a 6 man rotation for the next 20 days. After that if everyone is still healthy my guess is Garcia becomes the piggyback/long man.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    After this stretch of games, I'm down with that.

    Johnny Bullpen still worries me though, he hasn't been good so far.
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    August staff:
    Rotation: Greinke, McCullers, Valdez, Odorizzi, Urquidy
    Spot starters/piggyback guys/long men: Garcia, Javier
    Middle relief: Raley, Stanek, TBD (James, Smith, etc)
    Setup/closer: Baez, TBD trade, Pressly



    Sept-Nov staff:
    Starters: Greinke, Valdez, McCullers, Urquidy
    Long relief: Odorizzi, Garcia, Javier
    Middle relief: Stanek, Raley, TBD (Smith, James, etc.)
    Late inning: Baez, TBD trade, Verlander, Pressly
     
  5. RayRay10

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  6. Chilly_Pete

    Chilly_Pete Contributing Member

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    Good to see you back!
     
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  7. RayRay10

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    Popping in from time to time when I can.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Don't see how you can go into the trade deadline counting on Baez or Verlander or James or Smith for anything this year.
     
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  9. Snake Diggit

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    I don’t mind removing Smith/James/Verlander and having Paredes or Taylor or “enter upside AAA arm name here” as the 13th and 14th arm. But if they don’t think Baez will be back then they probably should add 2 arms capable of throwing the 8th inning in a playoff game.
     
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  10. Buck Turgidson

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    This is what I want regardless of Baez, but I'm a greedy b*stard.
     
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  11. jiggyfly

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    Framber was an after thought in 2019 and nobody thought he was much more than an emergency starter and nobody thought Urquirdy would be a key part of the rotation in 20/20.

    What I don't like is you injecting your Click hate into every thread, what is your end game here, we all know you don't like Click.

    You are giving your opinion on Click when nobody is asking about it.
     
  12. awc713

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    maybe raining threes is Luhnow?
     
  13. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Why not have every member of a fully rested 6-man rotation go 8 innings each game? :p
     
  14. No Worries

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    Or the Astros could go full-on TB Rays and make Verlander a 2-3 IP starter?
     
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  15. Redfish81

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    If Verlander does come back I'd rather use him as an opener. That way he can do his same routine he is used to doing for nearly 2 decades. If he can go 2-3 innings great.

    In the playoffs:

    Game 1
    Greinke 7 IP
    trade acquistion 1IP
    Pressly 9th inning if lead is less than 5 runs

    Game 2
    Verlander 2-3 innings
    Framber finishes game

    off day

    Game 3
    McCullers 5-6 innings
    Javier finishes game

    Game 4
    Garcia 5 innings
    Urquidy/Odorizzi 2 innings
    deadline acquisition 1 IP
    Pressly 1 IP

    Something like that....
     
  16. Snake Diggit

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    With the 7 SP they have, getting thru 7 quality innings in the playoffs with just those guys should be more than reasonable. So they just need 3-4 high quality arms that can go in high leverage in the 8th or 9th. Pressly is the only guy that fits that bill for now, although I’m sure Click would consider a healthy Baez a fit as well. If Verlander is able to pitch, he counts as one even if he is used as an opener since that would stretch the starter/long guys into the 8th. There’s a chance Raley or Stanek could be pitching well enough to be counted on, but for me I think one really high quality arm should do it, unless they don’t think Baez will be effective, then they should get 2.
     
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  17. raining threes

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    I'm just pointing out the differences between the two GM's and for you to make this post kinda proves my point There is no end game. I'm just pointing out what a GM that has won a QS did vs what Clicks been doing. Feel free to disagree.

    On the bringing this up in every thread, that's bs and a failed attempt at distraction. Nice try though.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    Love him, but he doesn't strike me as McKenzie material.
     
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  19. jiggyfly

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    No you are not just pointing out the differences, this is what got everything started.

    "Anytime you give Click a passing grade, you should have to suffer through watching the Stros bullpen or Maldy/Castro hit, when Castro isn't injured."

    What do you think having nobody giving Click a passing grade accomplishes?

    That's not a debate its you not wanting anybody to say anything positive about Click, why does that bother you so?
     
  20. Nick

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    Given that his routine was normally only suited to when he was planning on pitching at least 6-9 innings, I would think he'd be capable of making the proper adjustments so that the 1-3 innings he can pitch may be in a leverage situation (where they'd be more valuable than the 1st or 2nd inning).

    I do think there's a valid enough concern that if he starts games, and is very effective, Dusty (and likely himself) would let the ol competitive juices flow and see how long he can be out there.

    At least as a late inning reliever, there's an automatic end point.
     
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