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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jun 4, 2021.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    They certainly make some boneheaded plays, they just don't make as many of them as everyone else, apparently.

    eta: Fun Fact: of the 19 OOB, 6 are courtesy of Straw, 3 Altuve, 2 Diaz, 2 Yuli and a handful of guys with 1 each.

    They lead MLB in bases taken (on fly balls, passed balls, wild pitches, balks and catcher's interference) with 78, MLB avg is 56. They are a tic below MLB average in taking extra bases (more than 1 base on a single, scoring from 1st on a double) at 38% (MLB avg is 40)
     
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  2. STR8Thugg

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    Maybe they just make more ridiculously stupid plays, but less overall. Regardless, things are generally rounding into form
     
  3. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
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    They have the 3rd fewest outs but considering how many base runners the Astros get they may be the best in MLB at not creating outs on the bases based on chances.

    For years posters on this board said Pettis was the worst 3rd base coach in MLB because we'd have some runners get thrown out at home. I doubt the Astros were ever that bad but outs on the bases especially at 3rd and home stick in your head more, so you think it's worse than it actually is compared to other teams.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    They've also had 4 or 5 terrible ones in the last couple of weeks, so there's some recency bias going on too.
     
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  5. Nick

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    Pretty sure sending every runner home, regardless, was an experiment sent down from the nerd cave. Theory being: yes, a lot of OFers have great arms… and the ones with the best arms are rarely tested because everybody knows how good their arms are.

    However, if they never use their arms… perhaps they’ll not be ready to make the perfect throw?

    In the end the experiment failed as it turns out good OFers with good arms can pretty much throw it on a dime whenever they want to.
     
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  6. bloodwings19

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    A's lose, T.Bauer lose, Spankees in 4th place (swept by Red Sox). DJ's humongous contract with just 3 HR, 14 RBI. Alex Cora forces firing of Boone would be great. Spakees can miss the playoffs and their fans can @#$@ the Yankees. It is a good win today.
     
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  7. Nick

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    Quick question… were Yankees fans booing Marwin this weekend? Noticed he hit a HR tonight. Would be suprised and a tad dissapointed if they weren’t as they’re supposed to be the most “aware” fan base (even though there are idiots in all fan bases).
     
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  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Here's how the Stros rank in MLB during his tenure (not counting caught stealing):

    MLB average is around 52 each year
    '15 tied 16th fewest with 56
    '16 tied 9th fewest with 52
    '17 28th fewest with 69
    '18 tied 22nd fewest with 58
    '19 tied 9th fewest with 46

    Pretty much the same for outs at 3rd and Home, outside of the outlier in '17 they're basically league average
     
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  9. Buck Turgidson

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    Yankee fans claiming to be the most "aware" fan base pretty much makes them the least self-aware fan base.
     
  10. Nick

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    No question.

    Mainly referring to the ones who are the generational fans… who actually do possess a passion/love/dedication to the game that was passed down. Not just a bandwagon/fair-weather fan. Not just a fan of the Astros since 2017 when it became cool to be one again.
     
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  11. Marshall Bryant

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    They're all dead. Killed in nursing homes by a stupid Governor.
     
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    What does Luis Garcia have to do to qualify as one of the ERA leaders?

    With his 2.75 ERA, he’d currently be 6th in the AL. I feel like he’s made enough starts and the innings are definitely starting to accumulate.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Has to have as many innings as games played. He has 59 innings with 59 games played. He should be listed today, but won't be after tomorrow.

    He shows up in the ESPN ERA leaders.
     
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    He qualifies on the Baseball Reference leaderboard now. ERA 5, WHIP 5, H/9 4, K/9 6, Adj ERA+ 4, Adj Pitching R 9, Adj Pitching W 9, etc.

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2021-pitching-leaders.shtml

    It appears that one inning pitched per team game played is the qualifier for starting pitchers as Garcia now has 59 IP in 59 Astros games and just made the leaderboard.
     
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    I wonder how good Garcia can be, he is already performing at a high level and I think most people forget (or just don’t know) this kid jumped up from class A straight to the bigs last year.
     
  16. Marshall Bryant

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    I expect several of our pitchers to fatigue sometime this summer as they exceed their IP totals by a substantial amount. All IP are annual, not career.

    Greinke 37 - A pitcher with substantial history of being effective over 150 innings. Still going strong.
    Odorizzi - 31 A pitcher with substantial history of being effective over 150 innings. But not in the last two years.
    McCullers - 27 Hasn't reached 130 innings in his six seasons. Recovering from Tommy John.
    Valdez - 27 Has yet to throw 100 innings. Over 10% of his innings are in the playoffs.
    Urquidy - 26 Hasn't thrown 60 innings in his three seasons. Over 10% of his innings are in the playoffs.
    Javier - 24 Hasn't thrown 60 innings in his two seasons. Almost 10% of his innings are in the playoffs.
    Garcia - 24 Hasn't thrown 60 innings in his two seasons.
     
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  17. sealclubber1016

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    Minor league innings are still innings, and Urquidy threw over 150 innings combined in 2019, Framber threw 130 if you include winter ball. Likewise Javier and Garcia both went over 100 in 2019.

    They will all (hopefully) still exceed those numbers, but not by as much as it looks when compared to their MLB highs. The Astros are already being proactive in that regard with Javier, McCullers, and likely Garcia here soon.
     
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    You're point is well taken, But it's not quite the same throwing at the MLB level.
     
  19. Mr.Pringles

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    Fun things on an off day...

    Astros leaders in HR’s

    11- Tucker
    10- Correa
    9-Altuve
    8-Gurriel
    7-Alvarez
    6-Bregman
    5-McCormick
    4-Maldonado
    3-Brantley & Diaz
    2-Castro

    All waiting on Straw or Robel too hit one
     
  20. Alimoe84

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    Back in 2019, Straw played SS, 2B and all three OF positions.

    With Aledmys going down, maybe this is an opportunity for him to move back to role and give McCormick an extended look in CF?
     
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