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Will James Harden be left off an All-NBA team this year?

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  1. YOLO

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    maybe, doesn't matter much to me though this year again off of what i posted previously. And beal shouldn't even be on there. There's nothing impressive about being on a team that's below .500 in the east. awarding losing is a joke
     
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  2. lakersuck2

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    I agree with you he shouldn't. And Lowe was hesitant to have him on. Simmons doesn't have him on. Micheal Pina from SI doesn't have him on. If I recall correctly KoC doesn't have him either. He's gonna get on because of the stupid ESPN voters who frankly don't deserve to vote anymore anyway. It's like saying Curry should be MVP this year because Westbrook was in 2017. Well the Westbrook MVP was bullshit and shouldn't have happened either. Precedent doesn't matter if it's bad precedent.
     
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    no, he’s probably not gonna make it because he missed too many games

    as for Bron, he and the rest of the NBA don’t live by the same rules, so he might sneak in
     
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    Lebron played in 45 games and James Harden played in 44. If Lebron is in, Harden should definitely be in.
     
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  5. wekko368

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    Frankly, Harden's Rocket games should count as negatives against him.
     
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    Yet, he still has better numbers than Lebron and has had a greater impact
     
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    He played 36 games for Brooklyn. Do you think that's enough to warrant an all-NBA team selection?
     
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  8. HardenVolumeOne

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    harden averaged 25/10/5 for the rockets and was traded to the nets. Thats included in his season where he averaged 24/10/8 for the nets.. harden played 44 games and lebron played 45. whats the problem. If harden is not there then lebron shouldnt be there either. But if lebron is there, then harden should be there too.
     
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  9. wekko368

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    This season, Harden was universally considered a cancer for the Rockets. If you want to include his 8 Rocket games in his all-NBA consideration, then he definitely doesn't deserve it.
     
    #29 wekko368, May 17, 2021
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    That sucks for Harden, but...

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    harden was considered a “cancer” for the rockets REALLY after only 8 games. What about the other 65 plus games they played without James harden. Surely the rockets started winning games without the “cancer”

    this is just more damage controlling by the nba media who wants to pull curry closer to harden in career achievements. Harden was top 10 in real plus minus in 2016 and led all 2 guards in win shares per 48, bpm and vorp and didn’t make a single all nba team. Look at beals advanced metrics this year and I just smh, this was intentional because everyone in the media who votes on awards hates harden. Harden is screwed in the playoffs every year by garbage refs and is called a choker when he can’t win in impossible circumstances.
     
    #31 HardenVolumeOne, May 17, 2021
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    The guys on the Dunc’d on podcast are about the only guys I have heard say with total agreement that Harden should be all nba 2nd team.

    Their argument was all NBA, unlike MVP, doesn’t need nearly as much playing time to be rewarded and he was clearly deserving when he played.

    Don’t think I have heard anyone else put Harden on one of the teams, BUT I think 100% of the people said it was purely for games missed.

    I’m still just sitting here baffled how there are no shortage of all nba and mvp candidates from barely .500 or low level playoff seeded teams this year when a few years back that’s exactly why Harden was left off an all nba team when Howard tanked our season. “A .500 team who is the 8th seed are we really going to reward that?” Well this year it seems like that’s a certainty.
     
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    Yes. He was universally considered a cancer for the Rockets this season.

    Were you seriously unaware of this?
     
    #33 wekko368, May 17, 2021
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    My fault. You're right, 36 for the Nets. Half a season.

    I think there's a pretty good argument to be made for not giving Harden any credit for the games he played for Houston this year, as far as end-of-year awards go. One might even dock him for those games, if they wanted to be nasty.
     
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  15. durvasa

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    There is no required number of games for awards that I'm aware of. LeBron played 45 for the Lakers. Harden played 36 for the Nets. That's nine less meaningful games in a shortened season. It's a judgment call what voters do with that information.
     
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    so only 8 games out of what 72.. caused the rockets to have the worst record in the league smh. Stop damage controlling and lets address the real problem and that is that the nba media is heavily biased againist harden and has been since the nba players voted againist them and choose harden for mvp not just once but 3 times.

    NBA as a pillar of the 4 major sports, gets probably the 2nd most attention behind the nfl. but out of all the 4 they have the worst structure and is run the worst. By the nbas own foolish logic, aaron judge would have won mvp over jose altuve in 2017
     
    #36 HardenVolumeOne, May 17, 2021
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    Harden time with the Rockets left a bad taste in everybody's mouth, even me who understands why he did it, he did quite on the team, that and the extended injury is why he missed.

    Lebron did not have that type of baggage and that makes a difference IMO.
     
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  18. HardenVolumeOne

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    if their no required amount of games that is required then harden would surely be on an all-nba team. He finished top 10 in pretty every category besides overall raptor due to minutes played. He has a better case than both cp3 and definitely beal
     
    #38 HardenVolumeOne, May 17, 2021
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    Yes......we were forced to trade him for pennies on the dollar.
     
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  20. jiggyfly

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    This is Zach Lowe not the NBA and the NBA does not pick these teams anyway.

    Nobody really cares about all NBA teams historically.
     
    #40 jiggyfly, May 17, 2021
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