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Tensions over Palestinian evictions in East Jerusalem boil over

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaBeard, May 9, 2021.

  1. desi tmac91

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    I'm not in favor of the CCP.

    Uyghur genocide needs to be acknowledged.
     
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  2. Ubiquitin

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    Hamas leaders, even.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Hamas killed their own people. Hundreds of their rockets actually landed in Gaza, because they are morons.

    Israel is 100 % on the right side of history here.

    Hamas are basically of the same breed as the guys blowing themselves up in Europe and in the US. This is not about land. They have indiscriminately shot thousands of rockets at civilians in Israel - because they are driven by hate.

    You guys here who are from the left or are Muslim just side with Hamas blindly, it's a complete joke.

    Israel has actually been remarkably restrained throughout all of this.

    Every time Hamas gets smacked when they try this crap. Then they send suicide bombers when they run out of rockets. Eventually, they have to retreat with their tail between their legs. But they don't want peace. They just go back and use "aid money" to stock up on weapons again. Then they try again years later.

    But because they are morons, they lose every time. They are losers.

    It's a complete shame that the leftist media supports Hamas and has a massive anti-Israel bias.

    Trump was an *******, but he was right on Israel and Iran.
     
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  4. Ubiquitin

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    Hamas are terrorists for sure. But if Los Zetas shot a bunch of rockets at Allen, TX I would not condone blowing up TV Azteca.

    There will never be a liberal solution to this problem because hard line Israelis believe in a Jewish ethnostate while hardline Palestinians believe in a Muslim theocratic state without Jewish people. If the moderate Palestinians and Israelis could live together in a one state solution with equal rights that would be best, but neither sides agitators would agree to the terms. And two state solution does not work because Jewish settlers will continue to expand as given to them by their manifest destiny and Palestinian terror organizations do not believe in the legitimacy of Israel at all.
     
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    If someone has deluded themselves into creating a dichotomy or mutual exclusivity without acknowledging that there could be mistakes on both sides, they are beyond saving. The lack of emotional intelligence and maturity of some in this thread is pretty surprising. This is how fascism spreads.

    Grown men reasoning below a level for children. Its kind of crazy tbh
     
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  7. Ubiquitin

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    There is very little room for rationality for this conflict because it’s a cognitive dissonance for most people. Israeli government needs to either openly embrace there will be one Jewish state without a Gaza or West Bank and Palestinians are refugees or worse elsewhere or strictly enforce 67 borders and forcibly expel West Bank settlers and support Palestinians like the US government does for Natives here while still doing security operations against Hamas and Islamic jihad.

    Or Israel dissolves and Arabs and Jews live in Palestine like under Ottomans.

    or?
     
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    You need some self-awareness. No one is 100% on the right side of history. If you think that sincerely, you need to reevaluate.
     
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    Saying Hamas operated in the building isn’t enough reason to blow it up. Hamas operates everywhere — they control and govern the territory.

    As for Israeli sources claiming the US was satisfied with their operation and moreover that the majority of the countries world wide have no problem with how they’re handling this conflict — sorry if I don’t take their word on that. Governments have to maintain diplomatic relations and may not directly express strong condemnation as a result.
     
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  10. AroundTheWorld

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    You might not condone it but you bet the US wouldn't be as restrained as Israel has been if thousands of rockets got launched from Mexico towards the US.

    The US would go "nucular".
     
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    Yes it is.
     
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    I mean we invaded Iraq in response to Saudi terrorists flying airplanes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Our response would probably be to invade Cuba.
     
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    If Israel decided to go nuclear on Gaza, killing untold thousands, what would your reaction be?

    Where is the line for you?
     
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    Apparently your line is giving an hours notice to evacuate before blowing up buildings with no civilians. Thats too far for you.
     
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    The side situation with the news building is interesting.

    cause either Hamas wasn’t operating from there... which is damming on Israel and the IDF...

    Or they were operating from there (including potential past use of the building as a location to launch rockets) and the AP never once reported on it and continue to deny knowledge of it... which is extremely damning of the AP and journalism imo.

    while on the one hand I’d agree it’s one of the lesser importance incidents in that ultimately warning was given and its “just” a building.... on the other hand I think having a 100% proof evidence one way or the other would be highly enlightening as to what’s real and not real in the war of misinformation, which is part and parcel to the whole thing.

    to that point... why not release the evidence?
     
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    Yes, because the news-reporting work done in those buildings have value, especially during a time like this.
     
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    Why would it surprise anyone the AP was hanging out with Hamas?
     
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    **** about too get real
     
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    It won’t be worse than Cast Lead.
     
  20. Roc Paint

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    That depends on what your perception is of ****
     

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