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2021 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Jan 28, 2021.

  1. rfrocket

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    Aaron Wilson
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    Texans agree to undrafted free agent deal with former Texas A&M offensive tackle Carson Green that includes $125,000 total guaranteed: $25,000 in a signing bonus and $100,000 portion guaranteed of his rookie base salary, according to a league source
     
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  2. Hank McDowell

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    This was supposedly one of the worst DT drafts ever, if I remember right. That would make this kid, from New Mexico State of all places, one of the biggest long shots of the draft. Almost certainly a wasted pick, but screw it, why not? Gives me someone to root for. I hope he makes it!
     
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  3. Hank McDowell

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    And for what it’s worth, that A&M offensive line was damn good. These could be some decent signings.
     
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    Condolences to Texans coach David Culley, whose 94-year-old father died
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    Sad news!
    My prayers go out to his family.
     
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    Thoughts and prayers go to him his family and friends.
     
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    I hope David Culley has a successful head coaching tenure. Let a nice guy win for once!
     
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    1.88???? 1.888?? All right we passed!
     
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    I went to look up 2017 Chiefs grades. According to arrowhead pride they received an A-, B+, B+, C, C-, D from some of the so called experts.
     
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    I like this.
     
  11. blackistan

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    They were going to have to trade him anyway before his scandal because the owner is stupid enough to prioritize easterbunny over their damn franchise QB and before that make the worst trade in NFL history
     
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    This is on point but the only thing I disagree with is that despite everything fans will still sell out games at NRG unfortunately, its happened in the past and it'll probably continue to do so. Now fans will just blame Deshaun instead of realizing that the real problem has been Cal and it's still Cal and his new religious regime.
     
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    Texans don’t even have players to sell the the fans Watson and watt jerseys the only thing In the stores and they don’t even play for the team anymore I don’t think I’ve seen a team not have anyone to sell LOL Texans should still get a good get from a Watson deal if he settles but I won’t matter cause this clown show organization is ran by r****ds that lie about wanting to win
     
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    then in another 4-5 years we will trade away all the talent we get and rebuild yet again the Texans way
     
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    F- ? wth.
     
  16. J.R.

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    Grade: C
    Analysis: Houston gave up its first- and second-round picks as part of the Laremy Tunsil trade. The total price was too rich, despite his Pro Bowl performance. Mills was a good value in the third round as, at minimum, insurance at the quarterback position. Grabbing a receiver in the third round was a needed move, but trading away two middle-round picks (one this year and one in 2022) to land Collins was a bit much -- they needed those picks to rebuild their roster.

    Jordan could have been picked in the third round because of his receiving skills so selecting him in the early fifth presented good value. They moved up for Wallow, a 4-3 linebacker for Lovie Smith’s system and a special teams contributor.
    https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-draft-final-quick-snap-grades-for-all-32-teams
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    Davis Mills looks to be the future under center in Houston with Deshaun Watson’s ongoing legal issues, facing allegations of sexual assault and misconduct. With just five selections, it’s hard to give head coach David Culley anything higher than an average grade.

    Grade: C
    https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-draft-grades-analysis-reaction
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    Grade: B+

    The Texans only had five picks and none until the third round, but they made the most of their two selections on Day 2. One of them was Stanford quarterback Davis Mills, who was arguably the highest-rated player at his position after the first round. He might be under center sooner than expected depending on what happens with Deshaun Watson. Houston's other third-round pick, Michigan wide receiver Nico Collins, also was an underrated selection. Collins has excellent speed and showed off big-play ability with 19.7 yards per reception for Michigan in 2019.
    https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pa...inal-analysis-all-32-teams-after-seven-rounds
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    With the Houston Texans entering the draft with limited resources, the expectations were limited. Despite that, they added some solid value. Yet, there are puzzling selections such as Davis Mills mixed in. Not a bad first draft for Nick Caserio given the resources he had to work with.

    Grade: B-
    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/...lysis-grades-for-all-7-rounds-2021-nfl-draft/
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    Grade: C-

    The Texans started with little volume for Nick Caserio and seemed forced into getting a young developmental QB contingency to pair with Tyrod Taylor with Deshaun Watson’s future looking less likely to be with the team. Mills was a big reach. Collins and Jordan are nice assets for the passing game, but with a weak pass defense post-J.J. Watt, Houston somehow didn’t address either edge rusher or cornerback.
    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...-best-worst-classes/el9pxr18ar921xbe3wg675rw8
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    B-

    Breakdown: A team without a first- or second-round pick is probably not going to have a good draft. I thought the Texans probably did the best with what they had. Davis Mills could replace Deshaun Watson someday if they have to move him. Nico Collins and Brevin Jordan are nice picks.
    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/grading-all-32-teams-after-the-2021-nfl-draft.html
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    Mills is a developmental prospect with the tools to surprise some people in the pros; with Deshaun Watson’s future in limbo, the Stanford quarterback has an outside shot to become the Texans’ starter. Collins and Jordan also both offer intriguing traits and could become valuable pieces of this offense. Still, there doesn’t appear to be a day-one impact player in this class, as Houston didn’t have a pick before the third round. Their grade reflects that.

    Grade: D+
    https://www.theringer.com/2021/5/1/22415236/nfl-draft-team-grades-picks-rounds-tracker
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    D

    New Texans general manger Nick Caserio inherited quite the mess, with no picks in the first two rounds, the sword of Damocles hanging over Deshaun Watson, and a roster as bereft of talent as any in the league. But as inclined as we are to give Caserio a break in that regard… wow. Taking Stanford quarterback Davis Mills with that first pick in the third round doesn’t do much in the near term even if Watson never plays another down in Houston. And trading up for Michigan receiver Nico Collins, also selected in the third round, is a similarly confusing move. Collins is a big target who has struggled to separate in his collegiate career. Grabbing Miami tight end Brevin Jordan in the fifth round when Jordan was probably a third-round talent was the saving grace here.
    https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/2021-nfl-draft-grades-32-nfl-teams/
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    The Texans look toward the future at the quarterback position with their first selection in the 2021 NFL Draft. Mills is a former five-star recruit, has an NFL-caliber arm and got the ball out quickly while at Stanford with one of the fastest average times to throw in college football. He just doesn’t bring much mobility or experience. This is an interesting decision on Houston’s part considering that the team will likely be in a position to draft a quarterback early in the 2022 NFL Draft.

    Collins was a big-time recruit who just never produced as a Wolverine. The Texans will hope that’s mostly due to the lack of quarterback talent feeding him the football in Ann Arbor. Collins is a big, physical receiver with some shiftiness who still wants to play physical football and get dirty. He also has just enough juice to run by defensive backs. Consistency needs to improve.

    Jordan isn’t someone who you’re going to ask to block inline, but he did profile as one of the more dynamic receiving threats at the position in this draft class. He has legitimate after-the-catch ability for someone his size and can be used as a weapon on crossers in Houston’s offense.

    Draft Grade: C-
    https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams
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    The new regime finishes paying off former coach Bill O'Brien's Laremy Tunsil debt ... and then follows up an offseason marred by the Deshaun Watson soap opera and the organization's own questionable handling of it by investing their top pick (67th overall) in developmental QB Davis Mills. TE Brevin Jordan might be a nice get in Round 5, and new GM Nick Caserio got a solid veteran tackle, Marcus Cannon, from New England for a song. But soup to nuts – starting with O'Brien – this looks pretty disastrous from 30,000 feet. Grade: D-
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...bears-giants-jets-cowboys-raiders/4904079001/
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    Grade: D

    Analysis: Houston should’ve had the No. 3 pick but traded it years ago for OT Laremy Tunsil. Then they had to waste their first choice (third-rounder) on a backup QB because of Deshaun Watson’s legal issues and trade demand. No help for a rebuilding defense. Ugh.
    https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/2021-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams/
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    Davis Mills was a necessity given where Houston is right now. If you’re going to take a swing, it’s best to look at someone like Mills, who has pro-ready traits but got lost in the shuffle due to various circumstances.

    Nico Collins is one of the mid-round receivers one could see developing into a star under the right circumstances. Does Houston provide the right circumstances? Not even close. But he did beat up on some good Big Ten talent and could be a nightmare if he can develop a rapport with Mills or Tyrod Taylor on the back shoulder fade or a third-and-long 50/50 ball prayer.

    Brevin Jordan is a bit ploddy and his routes are a little mechanical, but if a coach can provide him some open space, he could be another relatively low-risk, decently high return offensive player from this draft.

    To be clear, we’re grading on a curve here. In his first draft, Nick Caserio does as good a job as he can.

    GRADE: B-
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/05/02/nfl-draft-2021-grades
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    Grade: C
    The Texans didn't own a pick over the first two rounds because of their trade for left tackle Laremy Tunsil, hurting the team's ability to retool its roster following a 4-12 season. That's why new general manager Nick Caserio executed so many depth moves during free agency. The Texans then needed to use their first pick on quarterback Davis Mills to give themselves additional insurance behind Deshaun Watson. Mills is an intriguing prospect. He possesses solid physical traits and might not be close to his ceiling after limited college experience. Collins was a great third-round selection, and he should provide some much-needed physicality to an undersized receiving corps. However, trading up for both Collins and Wallow with so few picks was a questionable decision from Houston.
    https://www.thescore.com/news/2164575
     
  17. clos4life

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    Safe assessment prediction when it comes to anything the Texans do lately.
     
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    Since the Houston Texans entered the 2021 NFL Draft sans a first or second-round pick, after trading them to the Miami Dolphins for offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil, it made hitting on the remaining selections imperative.

    Houston didn’t exactly do that.

    Granted, there is much uncertainty surrounding Deshaun Watson’s future, due to his potential personal conduct peril, as well as his frustration over ownership, but quarterback Davis Mills in Round 3 was a bit of a head-scratcher. Mills has shaky fundamentals when it comes to his footwork, but his accuracy and touch on passes — particularly back-shoulder throws — could make him a nice fit if Watson is not in Houston.

    But, here’s the thing, if Watson doesn’t play this season, there is a good chance that the Texans will be picking in the top-five in 2022, ideally positioned to land the top quarterback. David Culley hitching his wagon to Mills feels like a long-ranging mistake by the Texans.

    Nico Collins out of Michigan is a nice weapon in the passing game, and a possible special teams contributor. Collins did average 6.2 yards after the catch per reception, which could make him a nice outside target for Watson or Mills, but he’s a cut below some of the premier receivers in this class.

    If the Texans aimed to placate Watson’s concerns over how they’ve built around him, this wasn’t the way to do it.

    Grade: F-
    https://fansided.com/2021/05/01/2021-nfl-draft-grades-winners-losers/16/
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    B-
    With Deshaun Watson’s future uncertain, it was intriguing that the Texans used their first pick of the draft on a QB when they took Davis Mills early in the third round. He becomes a developmental QB while Tyrod Taylor would be the short-term alternative if Watson does not stay or is not available to play. New GM Nick Caserio simply did not inherit many resources for this draft from former roster architect Bill O’Brien.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/05/01/nfl-draft-grades/?itid=ap_markmaske
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    They didn’t have much to work with, not picking until the third round, but the Texans made the most of it. Davis Mills gives them starter upside at quarterback and insurance for the Deshaun Watson situation, while Nico Collins gives them a big, physical target they need in the passing game. Brevin Jordan was a huge steal in the fifth round, giving them another athletic pass-catcher. Garret Wallow should make an immediate impact on special teams, and Roy Lopez is a massive presence for the defensive front.

    GRADE: C+
    https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/2021-nfl-draft-grades-instant-analysis/
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    D+

    Houston walked slowly down the fairway over the three-day event with bullets in both feet, having squandered most of its draft capital in advance in flights-of-fancy trades. That it had to use its first pick on a quarterback -- the only position on the roster it shouldn't need -- because the franchise face demanded a trade and then immediately tanked his trade value off the field seemed like a fitting way to start the sad march. The most interesting thing about this class was the revelation that the NFL agreed with me about Brevin Jordan.
    https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/article/rankings/thors-afc-snap-draft-grades
     
  19. Phillyrocket

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    I don’t know anything about the guys they drafted. Seems strange to take a “developmental” QB in the 3rd when you know your going to have a top pick next year. Then you move up for a WR when that is arguably the strongest position group on the team. That’s not saying much but it is true. Hopefully this means at least Cobb will soon be cut. The defense was franchise history bad and they lost Watt I’d rather they loaded up there.
     
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    Agreed. Even with the lack of capital, I’m not quite following Caserio’s philosophy here. Outside of Mills playing significant snaps and showing out, it will be hard for Caserio not to consider taking a QB with their highest pick for the 2nd year in a row. Collins has a ton of potential but trading up for a WR who hasn’t played football in over a year is a big risk. Especially giving up a 2022 pick in which you will likely have a full season, combine, etc...to make evaluations.

    Guessing one rationale is Caserio anticipating having a high number and top picks next draft. Take some risks here, see what happens...But of all the talk about Lovie’s defense and wanting to create turnovers, surprised they didn’t add a single DB or pass rush specialist.
     
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