We chalking this one up to Harden? Or can we all just finally agree that no one wants to work under tilly?
Most posters complained for years about Morey treating players like "assets". Now you guys love you some Morey, who traded away all of our picks.
Did you erase that season from your memory? He couldn't play B2B games and he was terrible against the Warriors in the Semifinals except for Game 6 at which point it was too little, too late. Sure, his game itself has aged well because it doesn't rely as much on athleticism as say, a Russell Westbrook. But his body had not aged well by the 2018-19 season. And again, all of this is a moot point given that he and Harden were sick of each other by the end of that season. That's not Tilman's fault. CP3 was gone no matter what. And given the organization's neverending desire to please Harden(which dated back to the Les era), they traded for Westbrook. What's done is done. The key going forward is to put people in charge who'll make sound basketball decisions. Not to save money. Not to please a disgruntled superstar. But to put the best possible product on the floor. I have no idea if Tilman is capable of that(and I have serious doubts for the record), but we'll see how he does with his first opportunity come draft time(barring a very unfortunate bounce of the ping pong balls).
Nah I didn’t. I’m perfectly aware of what has been going on. I mean I’ve only posted about it for years since over and over and over and over. Especially when folks want to post fake news and random assumptions because it’s convenient. Only to continue looking dumb as usual. Of course it’s Tillman’s fault. It’s literally become a dumpster and everyone has decided to leave his ass for a reason but cf’s wants to act like everything is fine. Laughable. Some of y’all can continue to deny it all you want. Keep that same energy for the years ahead when they continue to suck
CP3 wasn’t gone no matter what. If Harden was so sick of CP3, why was he trying so desperately to add Butler and form a Big 3? Why did he ask Morey if Russ could be added to him and Chris Paul? Was Harden not as receptive to Chris Paul’s barking that 2nd year? Yes. Did Harden ultimately prefer Russ over CP3? Yes, but people need to stop acting like he despised CP3 so much it was like he wanted nothing to do with him and wanted no parts of playing with him any longer because it’s not true. if CP3 was gone no matter what, it’s because Tilman was gonna push a trade through no matter the cost and no matter of if the front office objected
Only person I care about is whoever's making the pick when we land this high ass first round draft choice.
Then don’t. There’s nothing to discuss when your whole logic is centered around let’s start now and forget everything else about this dumpster
I applaud you for the rational thought. Too many people around here have a hard on for hating everything, as if their "virtuous" frustration of blame will make the team succeed.
FFS, Tilman wasn't willing to tank, we're just losing a s*#t-ton of games because the changes he brought about left him with a truly terrible team.
An aging roster with an injury-prone superstar is not a great strategy for keeping a title window open. Yes it looks bad on paper, but a) titles aren't won in the regular season, and ultimately the criticisms of hiring D'Antoni, no matter how good we was as a coach, still came true: great regular season; falters in the playoffs and b) what's done is done. Move on.
Trash! Rockets are the Hornets of the west now. We'll develop new players with talent to ship them off to contenders.
this, and let’s not act like that 12-13 squad under Les wasn’t about to be 1 of the worst teams in the league if the Harden trade didn’t happen at the last minute the Rockets never wanted to tank this year, but we’re not capable of winning games even if we tried
I think on Basketball and Football there is a Small Window to Contend for a Championship because Role Players Decline Faster than Star Players it seems like. Championship Teams always seems to weaknesses on the Rockets especially. Plus Referees Scott Foster etc have really screwed the Franchise.
Rebuilding sucks, ok? But look at every team that's high in the standings right now. They all went through lengthy rebuilds: The Sixers are tops in the East. Remember "trust the process"? Because it was a very long one. It took them 5 years. And even now that they're finally reaping the benefits of that painful process, they still have yet to get past the 2nd round. Hell, they were swept in the first round last season. The Nets. Good God, remember how long it took them to dig themselves out of the hole they created with that Garnett/Pierce deal? And even now, they've been first round fodder the last two seasons and just mortgaged their future(yet again) to go for it all with Harden, Durant, and Kyrie. I could go on with the Bucks, Jazz, Suns, and Nuggets, but you get the point. They all had long stretches where they sucked before emerging as contenders. The only team that's been really solid for nearly the entirety of the past decade is the Clippers, but they were terrible the 5 years prior to that. And oh BTW, they still have yet to get to the Conference Finals ever in the entire history of their franchise.
NYK has been a joke for sometime, but there is a very important difference between James Dolan and TF: James Dolan is actually very wealthy and thus can afford to spend money and in fact has not had a problem doing it. The NYK’s biggest issue for the last 20 plus years is poor management. TF is cash strapped, highly leveraged a d in a business that has been permanently impacted (negatively) by COVID and tech. Houston, we have a problem!
You just know on a Tinder profile belonging to someone called Patrick it reads: "Owner, coach, GM, CEO and Talent Analyst for the Houston Rockets"
The revisionist history in this post is amazing. You can literally just go back to the forum in 2019 and see numerous posters saying CP3 was better than Westbrook that season before and after the trade. In fact, the same posters in this thread telling you how ridiculous your delusional posts are.
