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Can Steph carry his own team thread.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jiggyfly, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. HardenVolumeOne

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    no this warriors team is not comparable to the rockets this year

    draymond, looney, Wiggins, bazemore and oubre are all proven players in this league

    the rockets on the other hand had rookies like jesean Tate and kj Martin getting major run. Pj tucker and Ben mclemore getting major minutes. Along with John wall and cousins who are net negative players
     
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    durvasa Contributing Member

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    Who's crying? I wanted Harden to leave the team earlier than he did. It was evident that he wanted to bail out in the preseason.
     
  3. Easy

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    Other than Draymond, what have these other players proven? Funny you call these "proven players" while saying Tucker and Wall are worse than nothing.
     
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    They have proven that they aren’t good. There’s that.
     
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    I'm comparing to the unguardable tour 30ppg streak of Harden's, specifically when Paul was out 17 games and EGo 8 of those 17, as well. The other comparison to incredible scoring outburts on bad teams would be Kobe in 06-07, but not sure what comparable stretch of games for him.
     
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    Icehouse Contributing Member

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    I'm saying even if his cast is objectively bad, make the playoffs anyway. Numerous other "superstar" players have. You haven't see studs carry garbage to the postseason before?
     
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    Yes, and also miss the playoffs. E.g. LeBron two years ago.
     
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    I agreed. That is a fair expectation, and they are currently one game out of the 8 spot and going to make the play in.

    So if postseason is the expectation, he is currently meeting it, or at least very close to meeting it.

    If they collapse to finish the year I will accept arguments that he can’t carry a team. Short of that, I won’t.

    I also agree with Durv. There have been examples of greats missing the playoffs.
     
  9. Icehouse

    Icehouse Contributing Member

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    Yes, when he missed 33% of the season. A rare instance for him. You’ve also seen him have success with a bad team. Curry?
     
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    He hasn’t been on many bad teams since super early in his career. Which team do you have in mind?
     
  11. Icehouse

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    The ones from early on in his career, and the one that was competitive in the first Finals vs GS. No threads exist wondering if LeBron can carry his own team. It's a given that he can.
     
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    oubre, Wiggins and bazemore all had 20 tonight
     
  13. T for 3

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    if getting 20 is your standard for being good, it's no wonder you think bad players are good.
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...curry-goes-cold-30-point-streak-ends-11-games

    "It was a great run," Curry said after the game. "It was something that hadn't been done before. It was going to end at some point. Now you got to start another one. So it's just a matter of the next-play mentality. Just try to get rejuvenated when we go home -- to do it home, road, some big games, put a streak together, it was a special ride for sure. And never really get too hyped up on individual streaks or accolades like that. There were some historical names that I was able to pass. And doing something at this age was pretty special."

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    Curry became the first player since Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant to score at least 30 points in 10 straight games and became the oldest player in league history -- at age 33 -- to score at least 30 in 11 straight games after dropping in 49 points in Monday's win over the Philadelphia 76ers.



    Gosh, something seems off with that stat. I could have sworn someone else had a longer streak of 30 point games ...
     
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    Wait, they really just ignored James? That's ****ed up.
     
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    lol yeah that line feels like it’s missing some sort of age caveat.

    Just in case anyone forgot a long, long time ago way back in 2019...

    Harden had 32 in a row scoring over 30 and a stretch of 34 games where he averaged over 40.
     
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    The anti-Harden bias when it comes to anything related to Curry is historically ridiculous. Incredible stuff to see, even with the Nets he still gets no respect.
     
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    LOL. That's really screwed up journalism, and why am I not really surprised?

    In the real world of journalism, that writer could be fired, and the editor who allowed it to be published could be fired too.
     
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    They made the same mistake a few days ago, and then edited it for "age 33 or older".
     
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    The age reference is present in that run on of a sentence, so while not clear, it can be argued to be correct.

    it's a sport site trying to make a story out of relatively meek record. Kobe and Curry are more popular than Harden, so Curry + Kobe + record = a good recipe to grab views.
     
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