Tony buzbee filing lawsuit against Deshaun Watson? Hints at mistreating women

Ok.

 

All of those are very plausible next steps from the situation described in SI. Sounds like the same person. The only outlier is the forced oral sex. That’s all together another level but it’s also the next step up. I have a harder time believing that one but I certainly wouldn’t call her a liar either.

It’s getting very easy to believe that Watson assaulted many of these women.

 

There were a number of reasons she didn't testify in the criminal case.... she received multiple death threats, people came to her house and were trespassing looking for her, and there was even a plan to kill her. The FBI was involved. You also had female journalists covering the case receiving death threats. The victim was 19 years old, she was seeking therapy for being raped and had to have additional treatment with the death threats, the FBI was trying to monitor her home and people trying to break in. Her therapists ultimately suggested that she not testify as the circus was worse than any closure or vindication that she would receive from trial.

 

Didn’t some walk out and ask him to clothe? I think a couple even left.

 

I agree with you..... we look at someone like Watson that has never been in trouble, that seems to be very well put together.... and it is hard to connect HIM with what the allegations are.... and then more and more pour in and you wonder. The forced oral sex is something that is hard to fathom to many people, because there is no misunderstanding that those that want to excuse his behavior grapple for........ but it is possible.... after all, he apparently lacked the self control to not behave like a decent person while getting a massage... and what bothers me is with so many similar allegations, this wasn't a one time lack in judgment... he possibly planned this out, and he repeatedly did this for his own enjoyment.

 

That was over 15 years ago I have no idea why you keep bringing that up.

In this day and age they will not just drop a case of this high profile if the person will not testify especially if they have an account of the assault in the civil case.

My only point is you are being very naive to think a settlement means he is all good as a QB and in criminal court its not that simple.

I keep pushing back because you keep acting like its a get out of jail card.

 

I am sure some did, what's your point?

That means that they were free to leave.

 

Just saying some did call the session short and weren’t ok with nudity. As you said in the post I quoted.

 

What’s your point in continuing to act like these allegations aren’t sexual assault?

 

I think the the pelvis thrusts before secretion is telling to me..... yes I agree with you that some people are going to ask why these women didn't immediately run away. I can come up with reasons why they did not, and some of the lawsuits make references to it... that they were alone, that they kept thinking it had to be a misunderstanding or that they were afraid of the consequences..... but there are people that will say "well I would run"...... the same thing happened with Louis C.K., these women claimed to be in shock and froze.

Either way..... man, for someone that has been so disciplined and careful in everything he does, Watson sure was really really dumb about this.... he really should have paid escorts, they would do whatever role playing he wanted and it would not have been so risky.

 

I have to admit... it’s very hard to picture or associate Deshaun doing these types of things with women. In my mind I’ve tried to make excuses for him or convince myself and others that there is a conspiracy or something. But the reality is that sexual predators and people who commit sexual crimes come in all different shapes, sizes, ethnic backgrounds, and cultures.

I wish none of this stuff was true. Not only as a selfish Houston sports fan who wants to recover some sort of Draft capital for Deshaun, but I feel for the victims. Imagine being a woman and a high profile professional athlete thinking he can automatically do whatever he wants to you.

This is a horrible situation and although we still don’t know all of the details, I must admit, I’m starting to feel some shame for defending this guy when the accusations started coming out. This can’t happen... and I certainly don’t want a member of a Houston sports team committing these kind of acts against women

 

No, you can't go to trial in criminal court based on some affidavit or deposition in criminal court. The victim actually has to show up and testify. There are exceptions, but that's the general rule. Of course, the fact that the victims don't want to testify doesn't mean they can't be compelled to do so by subpoena.

 

This will all go away and not much will be said in 5 to 10 years, especially if he wins. That's just the way it is in NFL.

 

So it was because of the implication?

 

I don't think it's a good idea to compare what Watson did to what Louis C.K. did. With Louis, he attained consent before doing anything and when he didn't get it, he kept his dick in his pants.

With him, he's just a weird guy with an odd kink. The lines between that and sexual assault and sexual harassment should not be blurred.

 

damnit can’t get the gif to upload

 

There's definitely Dennis vibes going on with Watson, lol.

 

But Watson in the SI article was humping in the air and she directly told him he needed to calm down. There are also repeated instagram messages with sexual innuendo. The si writer is a credible writer, the massage therapist is also a professional registered therapist, nor does the therapist is asking for any money. It does nothing for the therapist to come out in public in her reputation and finances.

 

D.E.N.N.I.S?

 

I guess this is directed toward me and my point is that IMO the forced oral is the only thing that can be considered sexual assault, capiche?

Now I could be totally wrong what's considered in a court of law but I have yet to see or read anything otherwise which is why I say it's a grey area.