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Tony buzbee filing lawsuit against Deshaun Watson? Hints at mistreating women

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Nimo, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. J.R.

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    Deshaun Weinstein

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  2. jiggyfly

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    I'm surprised this has not made an appearance yet.

    Hope its lively enough.

     
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  3. body slam

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    Is there any way this could lead to Watson having to register as a sex offender?

    I had to go with the quote because I still can not figure out how to tag someone
     
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  4. a time to chill

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    I wish Jack Easterby was the one who had a massage therapist fetish.

    Seriously though...all these allegations are pretty damning. I hope Deshaun can somehow clear his name and this is all untrue, but it doesn't look good right now.
     
  5. Nick

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    To his defense (can’t believe I’m saying that), when some of these women quoted prices for extra services... he was under the presumption that they were professional sex workers who don’t necessarily out their clients for fear of prosecution.

    A lot of “massage ads” are basically implied prostitutes that operate under the guise of a legitimate service. Similar to how most strippers can be had, for a price. And maybe he doesn’t get off on simply paying for sex. It’s paying for the possibility of having sex if the “massuse” is willing/interested (but still gets compensated for it).
     
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  6. Nick

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    I think paying for sex and being a sex offender are slightly different (unless he actually assaulted one of them). He’s for sure got a sex addiction if even half these encounters actually happened.
     
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    There's a good chance that many of these women were prostitutes, but you have to consider the possibility that some of them weren't, and when he got used to acting a certain way with them and then tried it on someone unwilling, it opened up a can of worms.

    This is why he has to try to get this settled out of court. When the testimony reveals that this is what was going on, he might be able to avoid convictions of sexual assault, but this is all very illegal, as well. The NFL, Texans and many other teams won't look on this too fondly. He will still face his suspension, a possible voided contract and all sorts of lost compensation from endorsements. Sure, he's going to lose some of the endorsements if he settles, but he needs to avoid their testimony at all costs.
     
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    Rusty will have a field day if Buzbee doesn’t have more evidence, particularly on the more extreme cases. Watson right now looks like a guy that watched a whole bunch of massage room on pornhub and then got the fame and money to try and live that out. Had success in some cases and just kept playing it out. I’d guess most of these claims are similar encounters to the SI article. That isn’t good at all but it takes a different kind of person to go from suggesting sex to forcing sex. Maybe he’s that guy but I don’t know yet.

    What we can gather so far is that Watson is certainly an ******* and just dumb as rocks.
     
  9. Air Langhi

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    He is already screwed no matter what, but who knows. Kobe seemed to do ok after raping that girl and so did big ben. Robert Kraft was soliciting prostitutes. He didn't seem to get in any trouble.
     
  10. Air Langhi

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    I don't think he is dumb. Plenty of powerful men think they can just get away with it.
     
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  11. Nick

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    Oh definitely. I certainly think he lost total control of his urges/senses, hence why this type of behavior can literally be classified as an addiction that somebody needs literal professional help to combat.

    I bet in some cases he was literally surprised that the ‘therapist’ wasn’t willing to do certain things. That’s how often/common-place he must have abused this situation. Granted, there is still question to the timing of all of this (would this have come out if he wasn’t in a separate dispute?), and certainly they’re going to have to prove he did commit some sort of actual assault, but they have not denied any of these other “encounters” and in some cases they’re trying to pass them off as totally consensual.

    He has also yet to make any sort of public/non-tweet statement since the end of the season. Song lyrics are not going to be enough to clear his name/reputation. He is going to have to eventually say something and explain a lot.
     
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    Kobe and Ben would not have had the chance to rehabilitate their images in this era of Twitter, Reddit, etc.
     
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    Kobe was going against one girl with a lot of the evidence on his side. The other two did not go to trial, which is why things seemed to work out ok.That's exactly the route Watson needs to take. You don't necessarily settle because you're guilty, you do it to conceal other details. Or maybe you do it for convenience.
     
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    That SI article seems to be the most believable imo. Of course, anything is possible. It does seem like Watson does the same thing each time and either the girl chooses to help him or not. Hopefully that rape thing didn't happen.

    Probably more of a civil thing than criminal, other than the one rape allegation. Unless he forced her, she has agency too. But again, who knows.

    If the rape one doesn't stick, he settles everything, gives a mea culpa and goes to sex addiction treatment... maybe back in a year?
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    To tag someone type @body slam (@ + username)
     
  16. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    That's one take, but you and I have no idea.

    I'm sadly waiting for the Clemson reporting shoe to drop next. If you don't think there are reporters pouring over every detail of his college days...
    Anyway, I don't think this story is going to get prettier anytime soon.
     
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    I don’t understand rich people. I guess cause I’m not rich. Deshaun also has celebrity. Deshaun can get hot ***** anytime - he doesn’t need to whip out his **** to masseuses. Something is wrong with him. The number and frequency even if some of it true is wild.
     
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    It seems like everyone has some uncomfortable leverage. Watson doesn't want the details public for all the reasons you said. But I would think the prostitutes and the therapists who provide extra services don't want their pasts (social media, client lists, etc) investigated either. If Watson is trying to prove these were consentual encounters, can he get access to their other clients and call them to the stand? That would all be pretty ugly.

    In terms of the NFL, I'm not sure what their stance will be here if the sexual assault type stuff doesn't gain traction. Remember, the Patriots owner got caught in prostitution stuff - and that was on video, and in the middle of a huge criminal investigation and sting on sex trafficking. The NFL didn't really do anything there and it will be a point of contention with the NFLPA probably if they go after Watson for similar things. Of course, if any assault stuff gets confirmed, that's a whole different situation.

    Separate from all that, any franchise wants their star QB to be the marketed face-of-the-franchise, and it's now pretty hard to do that with Watson unless everything is proven completely false, which seems highly unlikely. Its hard to see anyone wanting to trade for him even if the NFL doesn't take action due to the PR issues the franchise would have to deal with with their fan base. It's probably not worth the headache.
     
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    Sodomy under most legal definitions can be anal or oral sex.
     
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  20. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Yeah, for real massages, I'm sure he has staff at the Texans for that. So it's all pretty ugly looking.

    My only sympathetic 2 cents would be that the pandemic gave him this severe case of cabin fever and he didn't know how to hook up with women during lockdown. But he still acted like a creep, even if you believe only 20% of these women.
     
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