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Marquis Daniels as Rockets PG?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hardeji, May 3, 2004.

  1. DavidS

    DavidS Member

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    That's hardeji's position. Not mine.

    Daniels is a G/F. And should not be thought of a as PG. That's crazy. Sorry for not making that clear in my posts. I was merely suggesting that he'd be a excellent acquisition. And yes I feel that he's going to be a rising star.
     
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  2. meh

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    Wow, SamFisher. Do you just automatically put down any idea that changes this team? The LAST player I would compare Marquis Daniels to is Shandon Anderson. Anderson was the epitomy of a role player. If he gets a big game, it's in the same way that Malone went off on us in the playoffs. Because the opponent is too busy doubling down on the stars. Daniels can create his own shot. In another words, Daniels can easily average 20 pts on a crappy team by hogging the ball, while Anderson can't do anything if there are no stars for the opposing team to concentrate on.

    Also, you can't use averages to compare the two players. Daniels is a rookie who played himself into a starting role, averaging many more minutes(and scoring opportunities) towards the end of the season than at the beginning. Anderson was more of a steady player.

    I'm not sold that Daniels will be a good fit for this team. He seems more likely to be a poor-man's Steve Francis than anyone else. Good scorer, average passer, crappy defender. But there's no way he turns out like Anderson.
     
  3. SmeggySmeg

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    i would dispute he is a swingman

    he certainly carried the ball and initiated the offense a fair bit for the Mavs, he could play the back-up point better than anything we'd had for a few years

    he probably had the ball more in his hands this season than Shandon has had in his whole career (damn i love the whole Cat v Shandon thing, think i still have a couple of spreadsheets somewhere:p)

    he certainly has some talent and i LOVE the way he moves without the ball and the way he finishes and passes and he plays honest D and makes very good decisions for a rookie... but some of the results of that have to do with focus on his teammates and i worry about his outside shooting, somthing that wasn't shown or test playing with the 5 scorers the Mavs have
     
  4. SamFisher

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    We'll see.

    I'm not saying he's going to suck, but when people start tossing around that he's going to be a star; well that's setting the bar high.
     
  5. Dr of Dunk

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    Dallas radio is reporting that Cuban wants to sign Daniels to a $5 mil exception they have. They also want to re-sign Nash. They said the only true untouchable however on the team is Dirk.
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    I like the Shandon Anderson comparison because both players were backup role-players on good teams. The difference is that Anderson's role in Utah was more about defense and energy, while Daniels has more of a scoring role (occassionally). Being a scorer doesn't keep you from being a role player.

    The comparison I like to make is Sam Mack, who was the Rockets designated gunner when we had injuries. Like Daniels, he occassionally had monster scoring games. On 4/2/96, he scored 38 points in a win over the Warriors, and scored 25 points in a loss to the Sonics the next night. Sometimes, he'd have 20 shots in a night. But, he was never more than a roleplayer for the Rockets. We used him as a throw-in on a trade. He later returned, held out for a big contract and ended up sacrificing his NBA career because he thought his role as a gunner made him valuable in the league. The BBS was scratching their heads a bit when the Rockets were so willing to let Mack walk. But, he never made his mark anywhere else after that. Not saying that Daniels is getting too big for his breeches; I'm sure he's happy to be getting PT right now. But, people are giving him too much credit for the role he plays, just as they had done with Mack. I don't expect him to be a star. If a GM does, we may include in the cap albatross lists in the future.
     
  7. thumbs

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    Tusk. Tusk. We'd hate to lose a good boarder with a long memory and a lack of direction.:D
     
  8. meh

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    Well, that may be true. But he's got a much higher ceiling(but also a lower floor) than Anderson. When you can put the ball in the basket at the frequency he can, you'll get a chance to be a star. Of course, Eddie Griffin had the same potential too at one point... :)
     
  9. HillBoy

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    Naw, the Rockets and all the others had their shot at Daniels. The Mavs intend to resign this kid. It's too bad because this is the type of player that the salary-capped and cash poor Rockets need but in order to find these guys, the Rockets will need to engage in something they haven't done in years: scouting.
     
  10. HillBoy

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    And Shawn Bradley because he is virtually untradeable. They are resigned to him riding out his contract for the duration.
     
  11. tuus

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    sorry, but i remember from somewhere, that by NBA rules no team can be without first round draft pick three straight times. ( thats the reason why Timberwolves got last draft first round pick )

    so we can't offer trades with our next season first rounder
     
  12. HillBoy

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    LOL!!!! Best comeback EVER!!!
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    I don't believe that's the case. If it were, it would have been mentioned in the FAQ under the following entry: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#70 . The only rule is regarding consecutive future picks.
     
  14. tuus

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    hmmm
    we didn't have first rounder last year.
    we don't have first rounder this year.
    is it allowed or not?
     
  15. dbigfeet

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    I thought it thru and its the dumbinst thing posibble. You take one ball hog (SF) for anotherT-MAC) and one no rebounding or defending PF (MoT) for a way worse one (Gooden). And you still have the exact same problem that the ROX had this year. No Bench
     

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