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Bushies have so many flip flops, we've had to make a database to hold them all

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  1. Woofer

    Woofer Member

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    http://www.americanprogress.org/site/apps/custom/cap/findorg.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=45294

    I picked one at random :military/troops


    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 10/9/2003

    Quote/Claim:
    “Your lives can be changed in a moment with the sudden call to duty. I want to thank you for your willingness to heed that important call, and I want to thank your families. I want to thank your sons, daughters, husbands and wives who share in your sacrifice, who are willing to sacrifice for our country and who stand behind you.”

    Fact:
    Less than 2 weeks after the President made these comments, “the Bush administration announced its formal opposition to a proposal to give National Guard and Reserve members access to the Pentagon's health-insurance system, jeopardizing the plan's future and angering supporters. A recent General Accounting Office report estimated that one of every five Guard members has no health insurance.” - Gannett News Service, 10/23/03



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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 10/9/2003

    Quote/Claim:
    “Any time we put our troops into harm's way, you must have the best training, the best equipment, the best possible pay.”

    Fact:
    “The administration announced that on Oct. 1 it wants to roll back recent modest increases in monthly imminent-danger pay (from $225 to $150) and family-separation allowance (from $250 to $100) for troops getting shot at in combat zones.” - Army Times, 6/30/03 “When Bush taunted gunmen in Iraq, many GIs must have nervously tugged at their obsolete flak jackets. For many GIs, Iraq appears to be a strictly BYOB war -- Bring Your Own Bulletproofs. The shortages [of protective gear] come down to money and priorities. Gen. Richard B. Myers confirmed last week that it would be December before there were enough plates for all of our people in Iraq.” - Op-Ed, Dallas Ft. Worth Star Telegram, 10/5/03



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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Rumsfeld, Donald - Secretary of Defense

    Date: 7/9/2003

    Quote/Claim:
    “The services and the Joint Staff have been working with Central Command to develop a rotation plan so that we can, in fact, see that we treat these terrific young men and young women in a way that's respectful of their lives and their circumstances.”

    Fact:
    In 2003, "troops were told they'd be going home in May. Then in early July. Then late July.” Then Rumsfeld said August. Then officials changed the story again, saying “they could make no hard promises.” Then the Pentagon announced for the first time since Vietnam, they might “have to start serving back-to-back overseas tours of up to a year.” Then Secretary of State Colin Powell said some troops would probably be serving at least another year in Iraq. And now the Pentagon acknowledges that the “United States will have to provide the overwhelming majority of the occupying troops indefinitely.” - ABC, 7/16/03; USA Today, 8/24/03; Figaro, 10/24/03; Ny Times, 10/27/03




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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 1/17/2003

    Quote/Claim:
    “Seeing the care that these troops get is comforting for me and Laura. We should and must provide the best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way.”

    Fact:
    The President made these comments on the same day that his Administration announced it was cutting access to its health care system for approximately 164,000 veterans. The Administration also pushed a cut of $1.5 billion in military housing/medical facility funding, despite the fact that UPI reports “hundreds of sick and wounded U.S. soldiers including many who served in the Iraq war are languishing in hot cement barracks here while they wait - sometimes for months - to see doctors.” - Washington Post, 1/17/03; UPI, 10/17/03

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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 1/17/2003

    Quote/Claim:
    “Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is comforting for me and Laura. We are, should and must provide the best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way.”

    Fact:
    On the same day President Bush made this comment, "The Department of Veterans Affairs announced that it is immediately cutting off access to its health care system" to 164,000 veterans. - Washington Post, 1/17/03 The Veterans of Foreign Wars issued a statement after the President introduced his 2005 budget calling the proposal "disgraceful" and saying, "the president ignored veterans in the State of the Union Address and with today's release of his 2005 budget, it is further evident that veterans are no longer a priority with this administration." VFW Commander-In-Chief Edward Banas said "the funding package is a disgrace and a sham." - VFW Release, 2/2/04 With the Bush Administration chronically underfunding veterans medical care, "Hundreds of sick and wounded U.S. soldiers including many who served in the Iraq war are languishing in hot cement barracks here while they wait -- sometimes for months -- to see doctors. The National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers' living conditions are so substandard, and the medical care so poor, that many of them believe the Army is trying push them out with reduced benefits for their ailments." - UPI, 10/17/03




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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 1/3/2003

    Quote/Claim:
    “I want to make sure that our soldiers have the best possible pay.”

    Fact:
    “The Bush administration announced that on Oct. 1 it wants to roll back recent modest increases in monthly imminent-danger pay (from $225 to $150) and family-separation allowance (from $250 to $100) for troops getting shot at in combat zones.” - Army Times, 6/30/03

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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 1/3/2003

    Quote/Claim:
    “I want to make sure the housing is the best possible for our military families.”

    Fact:
    The Bush's 2004 budget proposes a $1.5 billion reduction in funds to military family housing/medical facilities – a 14% cut. - Bush FY 2004 Budget



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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 8/20/2001

    Quote/Claim:
    "Veterans are a priority for this administration...and that priority is reflected in my budget."

    Fact:
    "Hundreds of sick and wounded U.S. soldiers including many who served in the Iraq war are languishing in hot cement barracks at Ft. Stewart, Georgia, while they wait, sometimes for months, to see doctors." - UPI, 11/5/03 A task force commissioned by the President found that federal funding for former soldiers has plummeted from almost $15,000 to less than $5,000 over the past decade, while over 235,000 veterans "are currently waiting six months or more for an initial appointment." - NYT, 8/14/02

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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Bush, George - President

    Date: 8/20/2001

    Quote/Claim:
    "Veterans are a priority for this administration... and that priority is reflected in my budget."

    Fact:
    The President's 2004 budget request for the Veterans Administration will effectively cut spending for its already-stretched health care system. Because of increased medical costs at an above-inflation rate of 4.7% and increased enrollment of 8%, the American Legion calculates that Bush's 2004 request "comes $1.9 billion short of maintaining an inadequate status quo." - American Legion Magazine, May, 2003

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    Topic: Military/Troops

    Speaker: Cheney, Dick - Vice President

    Date: 4/26/2004

    Quote/Claim:
    "It is irresponsible to vote against vital support for the United States military [and] repeatedly call for major reductions or outright cancellations of many of our most important weapons systems.”

    Fact:
    "We have to get on with the business of cutting…We have to cut out those things we don't need. We have to cut out those things that we can do without in the military area, that we can do without in terms of the complex that is the Department of Defense…Over the course of the last year, since I've been Secretary, I've recommended terminating, cancelling, shutting down 20 separate weapons programs." - Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, 4/30/90 "The F-14B, of course, we're terminating in '90. There's no new money in it for '91. The AHIP, the Phoenix missile, the F-15 aircraft, et cetera -- all of those are being terminated in '91…The Apache helicopter, of course, ends in '91. The M1 tank, we're proposing to shut down the M1 tank production lines in '91.” - Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, 2/1/90 Defense Secretary Cheney tried "to reduce active-duty troop strength" from 2.2 million to 1.6 million while making "deep cuts in the Reserves and National Guard." - NY Times, 8/4/91 If President Reagan "doesn't really cut defense, he becomes the No. 1 special pleader in town…The president has to reach out and take a whack at everything to be credible [meaning] you've got to hit defense." - U.S. Rep. Dick Cheney, 12/16/84

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  2. HAYJON02

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    Here's a great old clip from the Daily Show where they have President Bush debate Governor Bush. Classic.

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    Here's a great one from John Ashcroft.. back when he was in the senate..


    http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/1097/ijge/gj-7.htm

    In order to guarantee that the United States meets the challenge of this new means of commerce, communication, and education, government must be careful not to interfere. We should not harness the Internet with a confusing array of intrusive regulations and controls. Yet, the Clinton administration is trying to do just that.

    The Clinton administration would like the Federal government to have the capability to read any international or domestic computer communications. The FBI wants access to decode, digest, and discuss financial transactions, personal e-mail, and proprietary information sent abroad -- all in the name of national security. To accomplish this, President Clinton would like government agencies to have the keys for decoding all exported U.S. software and Internet communications.

    This proposed policy raises obvious concerns about Americans' privacy, in addition to tampering with the competitive advantage that our U.S. software companies currently enjoy in the field of encryption technology. Not only would Big Brother be looming over the shoulders of international cyber-surfers, but the administration threatens to render our state-of-the-art computer software engineers obsolete and unemployed.

    There is a concern that the Internet could be used to commit crimes and that advanced encryption could disguise such activity. However, we do not provide the government with phone jacks outside our homes for unlimited wiretaps. Why, then, should we grant government the Orwellian capability to listen at will and in real time to our communications across the Web?

    The protections of the Fourth Amendment are clear. The right to protection from unlawful searches is an indivisible American value. Two hundred years of court decisions have stood in defense of this fundamental right. The state's interest in effective crime-fighting should never vitiate the citizens' Bill of Rights.
     
  5. Woofer

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    Not only manages a flip flop, but then blames it on Clinton instead...
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=6&u=/ap/20040502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bremer_bush



    Bremer Takes Back Statements About Bush

    Sun May 2, 7:58 PM ET


    BAGHDAD, Iraq - L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Iraq (news - web sites), said Sunday he regrets a statement he made more than six months before the Sept. 11 attacks that the Bush administration was "paying no attention" to terrorism.

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  6. Woofer

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    So many flip flops. So little time.

    Another person working full time on Bushie flip flops with a *daily* column to track the flip floppers.

    http://mediamatters.org/
     

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