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Harden apologises and admits forcing out

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Feb 12, 2021.

  1. Milos

    Milos Member

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    Yup

    Next up is Beal working his way onto a contender
    If Bucks don't get out of 2nd round again, expect Giannis to follow

    The SuperMax was supposed to give teams an edge in retaining their superstars, but instead it has backfired

    Teams don't just lose the player as a FA, but are forced into taking back garbage contracts and spare parts since the player seems to have all the power in choosing his next team

    Silver and the owners need to update CBA to include clause prohibiting any trade of any SuperMax contract until it has only a year left or something like that to discourage this new tactic
     
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    Superstars have run the NBA for a far back as I can remember. But I agree their power as of late gave really put franchises in tough spots.
     
  3. Easy

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    What is a team supposed to do if they don't want to trade a franchise player who has two more years on his contract? Are you saying that a team is obligated to grant a player's wish even if it is detrimental to the team's interest?
     
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    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    When someone wants off a team, that's it, its over.

    The players have the power.
     
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  5. Easy

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    Do you really want to see a league where star players can force their way to go wherever they want regardless of the contracts they sign? I know it is the reality. But do you really like that?
     
  6. Zboy

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    What are you doing about TIlman then?
     
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  7. Easy

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    I know what you mean. But I think to say that the players have ALL the power is wrong. The league gives them the place to make huge money. Without a healthy league, they don't have that. It is a two-way thing. The league needs the players and the players need the league. That's why they have the CBA. It's a negotiation between the two parties. A league that is run by the players is not a healthy thing.
     
  8. larsv8

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    Of course not, but it is what it is.

    The players are the commodity.

    You do everything you can to keep them happy when you have them. Yes, you coddle them, yes you let them get away with bullshit, and most importantly, when you have one, you spend ****ing money.

    Harden was happy here, til Fertita ****ed everything up.

    Thats the game.
     
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    Thats not how things work when you sign something called a contract
     
  10. Easy

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    It doesn't matter if Fertitta is trash. They need to do something in the CBA to prevent this kind of behavior by the players.

    Remember when drafted players could hold out a whole season in their contract negotiation before they had played a single game? Then they installed the rookie salary scale. Now everyone gets the same amount according to the draft position. No more hold outs. Good for the league. Good for the fans. Ultimately good for the players.
     
  11. larsv8

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    Of course it is.

    A contract merely requires you to show up. It does not dictate your performance, attitude, etc.

    Again, the players have all the power.

    I am not arguing what should or should not be done, merely what has occurred and what is.

    Tilman didn't have to penny pinch and he didn't have to make a bunch of stupid decisions, but he did. He quit on Harden, and thus Harden wanted out.

    My point is, we (the Rockets) quit on Harden before he quit on us.
     
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  12. hakeemthagreat

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    Did Harden not show up late to camp? Did he not break all types of safety protocol partying with rappers, while his teammates were practicing? He CLEARLY didn't honor his contract obligation




    Let's not blame Tilman for Harden's behavior, that's Daryl Morey's doing. Harden got whatever he wanted his whole tenure here to the detriment of the team & reputation of the organization.So when his biggest enabler left to Philly, no surprise he wanted out. Harden's BEEN quitting on the Rockets not Tilman
     
  13. larsv8

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    Sorry but no.

    This is people trying to feel better about the situation.

    Accept it for what it is.

    Dantoni, Morey, Harden all FLED this owner. Each did the exact same thing depending on what their individual contracts allowed them to do.

    People choose to be butt hurt over Harden, it is silly.
     
  14. riko

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    Yep..
     
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    Luka forcing his way out next for the Mavs.
     
  16. riko

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    Cuban will spend and build a great team around him. I don’t see Luka leaving Dallas.
     
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  17. hakeemthagreat

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    I'm sorry, did Tilman create this culture where one player runs the WHOLE organization? Running his co stars outta town over pettiness? Did Tilman create a philosophy (Moreyball) where one player handles the ball, and his teammates stand in the corner while he stat pads? I assume you blame Tilman for the GM's reputation of not caring about anybody but Harden, and turning off big free agents.

    Daryl Morey & Harden fans love scapegoating Tilman. But the FACT is Tilman inherited a mess and is doing a good job cleaning it up now
     
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    yes so simple yet cf too cheap to even think about it...saving their thinking for calculation of the tank standings
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  19. DaDakota

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    not a fan of his at all.

    DD
     
  20. bro2044

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    Nope.

    Had he tried, we'd be in the middle of playoff teams, building chemistry, and dominating most nights. He screwed us and never gave a chance so he could run away from Lebron to get a finals appearance, but is struggling with the overrated Nets. What a tarnished legacy.
     
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