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Time to Meet Tank?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Le$$, Feb 8, 2021.

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Should the rockets tank?

  1. Yes

    82 vote(s)
    60.3%
  2. No

    54 vote(s)
    39.7%
  1. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

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    We've had a culture of placating a narcissist... while we were winning - we did not have a winning culture.

    imo...
     
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  2. lakersuck2

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    Well if you have a problem with narcissists, how can we fix our culture when we have one of the biggest narcissists in the entire world running the show?

    BTW you can help yourself to some of his wisdom for under 7 bucks now.

     
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  3. kjayp

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    It is what it is...
    If there's a way to trade out Tilly jus tell me where to sign...
     
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  4. KingCheetah

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    Boys, we're closing in on meat tank time.
     
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    To self destruct so the phoenix can rise from its ashes.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. bobloblaw

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    If Wood is not 100% maybe he signed off on a temporary tank by the Rockets.
     
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    With Wood out indefinitely, I do not think they are trying to make the playoffs. Resting main guys often like Wall & Dipo (even though he's playing terribly he is still giving more points than most in the team) they do not seem to want to make the playoffs nor have the intention of keeping most of these players for the long-term. Simply said, I have no clue what the organization's long-term gameplan is. Sometimes it feels they want to tank and sometimes it feels they want to make the playoffs. Silas's rotation in 3rd and 4th quarters is also puzzling at times. With 6 game win streak, we saw great defense and the potential to make the playoffs. Now all of sudden they look like duds on defense and jacking up way too many 3s. There is simply no consistency whether it comes to the roster, rotation nor strategy.
     
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  10. Corrosion

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    Maybe they are strategically "tanking" to some extent .... sitting out key players last night and others tonight. If you are trying to win games , you don't split your two best ball handlers / scorer , you sit them in the same game.

    But at the same time they are winning enough games so they don't help OKC draft wise ....


    I'll call this season a win if they keep their own draft pick and OKC ends up with their own plus Miami's.
     
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  11. TimDuncanDonaut

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    As a snapshot, current poll is 61% yes, 39% no.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Winning culture is invented after the fact. Lakers had team sex parties with Magic. Bulls let Jordan hang out in AC at 5 AM and sign over the deed of his house to play another round of baccarat.

    But, they won, so....winning culture
     
  13. coachbadlee

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    Uhhhh.... not yet, but close.
     
  14. kjayp

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    When i say 'winning culture'... i mean everybody on the same page sacrificing for the good of the team as a whole... do some teams get credit for a 'winning culture' when they are actually a dysfunctional mess that just happens to be so loaded with talent that they win anyway - sure, it happens...

    If guys are more concerned with their personal stats rather than team results - not a winning culture...
    If guys simply dont want to play a certain way (ie D12 w pnr or James and off ball) despite the team benefits - not a winning culture...
    When coaching and mgmt enable poor behavior with lack of accountability and turning a blind eye - not a winning culture...

    When you hear reports (such as WB) about practices being called off to accommodate Harden... or Harden showing up late to film review or whatever - with no repercussions bc we are more concerned with coddling him than instilling standards for everyone to follow - that is not building a winning culture...

    Granted, a 'winning culture' may be a totally subjective opinion... and not something to quantify analytically... but imo you know it when you see it - and when you dont...
     
  15. SamFisher

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    Why does James running around off the ball like Demar Derozan equate to winning culture?
     
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  16. kjayp

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    Effort. Everybody can see that everybody is working hard towards a common goal - and everybody is willing to do the 'dirty work' needed for the team to be at peak performance. Not some diva who's 'better than everybody else' has a different set of rules to follow...

    Do star players get treated differently - sure... in their contract, negotiations, marketing and various other things - but it shouldnt be happening on the court. Would everybody be cool if Ego decided that since the play called was a Harden iso, it would be cool if he hung out at half court? People would be like 'hell no, he needs to get up there for a potential kick out or a possible deflection or rebound...'

    The minute I started hearing that 'cornerstones vs roleplayers' crap - i knew we were not on the right track... when people started excusing James' lack of defense bc he had to 'carry such a load on offense' i knew we were going off the rails... and it was confirmed by 'those that matter dont mind - and those that mind dont matter...'

    did it get 'pulled back in line' from time to time? sure... but it always resurfaced...
     
  17. SamFisher

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    That's just laughably wrong.

    Needlessly expending effort for a bad ROI is the epitome of losing culture, not "winning culture". Ask wordlwide windy on LeBron and "the art of resting while playing" or anybody who works on agile methodology - maximizing the amount of work not done is a goal.

    Frankly the lesson is even deeper than just basketball. The whole point of complex living structures like human beings is generally to minimize the amount of calories burned with respect to fuel expended in getting those calories. In fact, even with inanimate objects the principle of least action tends to hold in most sitautions.

    Your point is not well taken. It contradicts LeBron, Windhorst, LaGrange, Hamilton, Fermat, Gauss, Hertz. It must be discarded.
     
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    Damn that book isn't on the dollar section yet?
     
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  20. jiggyfly

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    Wrong?

    Do you see this team winning a championship?

    He never talked about just making the playoffs.
     

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