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ScheftBomb! Watson formally requests trade

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Hey Now!, Jan 28, 2021.

  1. El_Conquistador

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    Wow, watching Tom Brady last night - take a hapless, losing team that hadn't done anything in many years... and change the culture into a winner... and then win the Super Bowl... just shows how great he is. Watson, for all his hype, just led a team that had won 4 of 5 division titles... to a 4-12 season. Fact.

    Deshaun Watson is demanding a trade and trashing the franchise after a single bad year. Not only is there a huge performance gap between Brady and Watson, but there's a huge character gap as well. Trade Watson - he's not that great. And with his current attitude, I don't see him ever taking it to the next level. Winners are made of stronger moral fabric - determination, persistence, accountability, and individual responsibility.
     
  2. Verbal Christ

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    I wonder how many people would just shrug off a boss who spies and follows them around, a boss who will call your mother if he feels you as an adult man is doing things unbecoming to his set of core values. A boss who will lie to the employees about a lawsuit and that he will be given the names of the sources for an article in some Gestapo tactic to inspire fear?

    Every day more dirt comes out about the levels of distrust and flat out incompetence with this front office and how they've treated players AFTER SEPTEMBER and some guys would just rather waft the smell of sht in another direction - or just sit there and "deal with it"

    damn shame more people dont do what Watson does and chase their passion and not allow an energy draining environment to sap them of their happiness.

    Sucks to be some of you clock punchers who have to go to work with a crappy manager who demeans and keeps you in your place. Fk that.
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    Not a good argument. Tampa Bay before Brady was a solid team with a **** qb. Winston was horrible. Absolutely horrible.

    Watson absolutely **** on Brady analytically in almost every department especially efficiency per pass.
     
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  4. fchowd0311

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    I think it shows the folly of man. People can't have relative perspective. The more wealthy and exuberant your lifestyle is the more you become accustomed to it where you will always feel like a victim. This isn't unique to Watson. Any working class human would think someone making 40 mil a year to throw a ball around partying with Mia Khalifa is peak happiness.

    The Bucs holding the Chiefs to 9 points is the reason they won that Superbowl. There are many qbs in the league that could have won that Superbowl if the Cheifs were held to 9 pts.
     
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  5. Omihall23

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    Also a bad argument because clearly Tom Brady was given control, while its obvious that the Texans prefer to be run by Easterby.
     
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  6. Verbal Christ

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    Thats BS. Just your interpretation of contentment. Doesnt apply to everyone. Reeks of jealousy and shows that you have no idea how people with money behave or choose to spend their time or how they put their money to use.

    Surround yourself with successful people and you'll have a good chance of being successful. Surround yourself with fools - and you know the rest.

    Stupid to inject your feelings about who he hangs with also - that Jack Easterby mind FK is doing its thing.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    Of course it applies to all humans. Relative perspective is a difficult skill to have. For example. I try really hard to have that perspective. I understand that I was born and raised in a two parent houshold in a upper middle class suburb. Still had some struggled in life here and there but I always try ground myself by examining how lucky I am in the grand scheme of life.

    A person making 40 mil a year and partying with famous pornstars is living the best type of life and they should have relative perspective.

    You keep on going back to this "jealousy" shtick. It makes no sense.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    Tampa Bay's records the last 3 seasons: 5-11, 5-11, 7-9. Now they are Super Bowl champions. Brady changed the culture. Brady has the CHARACTER to change the culture. Watson doesn't have the character to endure 1 losing season without demanding a trade... and just led his team to a 4-12 record. There is a make-up gap the size of the Grand Canyon between these two players.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    No. They were 7-9 last season with one of the worst starting qbs in the National Football League. They held the Cheifs to 9 pts. If you want to make an argument that Brady have the players on the Bucs hope to try harder because now they believe they have as chance with a good starting qb, you have a point but those players would have the same reaction of not better with Watson joining that team.
     
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    What owner in their right mind is going to give "control" to a 25-year old QB who just came off a 4-12 season? That's a little silly. Brady had some control, not full control, because he's the GOAT and had 6 rings coming into the season. Vastly different that Watson's thin resume.
     
  11. Air Langhi

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    TB hadn't made the playoffs 2007. It was bad franchise. Probably one of the worst in the NFL. Arians was a mediocre coach who probably gets his QBs killed who had some limited success with palmer. Brady bought some ring chaser and is the main reason the the luck of their entire franchise changed.
     
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    They were 7-9 with one of the worst starting qbs in the league. Guess what. A 25 year old stud qb will also attract top talent.
     
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    They were 3rd in offense last year in both scoring and yards. How are you a top 5 offense with the worst qb in the nfl.
     
  14. Verbal Christ

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    dude I legit posted about information that has been released thus far about the r****ds on Kirby and you chose to go on some fantasy scenario about what you think rich people "feel" as some sort of explanation and then even throwing in Mia Kahlifa from his rookie season as yet more passive aggressive behavior. Desahun has been in a committed relationship for quite a while now so it just shows how petty you are being.

    You dont have any idea what "rich/wealthy" people do, but yet you want to deliver your opinion as some sort of scathing rebuke of "people who make 40Ms" as if thats the baseline where douchebaggery begins or something.

    Again - some of you guys are just playing weird games of deflection in order to smear Watson and its not going to work. Kid is everything an NFL team would want in their QB and one day he will hoist the Lombardi for a more deserving franchise.

    "it is what it is"
     
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  15. fchowd0311

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    Why do you post in a Houston sports fan page?

    Watson if he didn't want to be with a "not deserving franchise" didn't have to sign a massive extension 4 months ago. It's that simple. He did. He gets the privilege of one of the largest contracts in NFL history. That's his reward for his hard work.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    So Tom Brady is a defensive coordinator?

    This argument has no logical consistency on your part. Winston was absolutely atrocious and the Bucs got there by extreme high volume of passing attempts. Winston's yards per attempts were atrocious and his td to int ratio was laughably bad. The fact that he couldn't land a single starting gig shows that he was near the bottom of the league in qb starting talent.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    Bingo. The offense was quite capable. The culture was not a winning culture. Brady changed it in one year - truly remarkable.

    What is culture? It's your values, your rules, your outlook and expectations. The standards you set. What you demand of your teammates. Brady was able to take a hapless, losing team and beat a defending champion in the Super Bowl in a single season. At the age of 43 years old. That is unreal.

    Watson? Well, he's sitting at home posting rap music lyrics on social media and trashing his current employer. Stark contrast.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    I'll question Watson's ability to have perspective, not his work ethic and leadership ability. To me this seems a tad bit racially motivated knowing your post history.
     
  19. Verbal Christ

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    What? "why do you post..... blah blah blah" what does that have to do with anything? You're not staying on topic and flying all over the place grasping at straws and using a post hoc fallacy about what Watson did in September trying to rationalize whats going on today. Im sorry dude you're just being intentionally obtuse.

    "privilege .. reward ... massive .. largest .." LOL you are subconsciously giving up your position and dont even know it!

    You dont have to like Watson or how he is handling HIS business, but you shouldnt need to slander and create fan fiction to further your take. Just sayin'.
     
  20. gucci888

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    Ya but it's not. BoB's rise to accession was a direct result of Easterby botching the Caserio hire. After that, Easterby and BoB talked Cal into some ridiculous GM by committee compounded by the even worse decision of it including one of the very guys the f*cked it all up in the first place. Oh and they talked him into firing the one contract specialist just a few months in. But you want to blame DW4 because he vouched for BoB at a press conference? Not sure if you are avoiding the question or just didn't see it, what would you want DW4 or any other player to say when asked about their head coach at a press conference chalked full of reporters?

    In your real world scenario, this is like the owner of the company promoting someone solely because he indirectly heard an employee say nice things at the company Christmas party. Then turning around and blaming the employee when things don't work out. A ridiculous notion.
     
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