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Top 4 pick or Bust!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Trackwell, Jan 17, 2021.

  1. hakeem94

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    did you predict miami getting to finals last year?
     
  2. Htown's Finest

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    Look at teams like Miami who went to the Finals last year, LAC are considered a title favorite, and Milwaukee didn't tank when they drafted Giannis in the 2013 draft with the 15th pick. All of those teams are considered successful but yet they didn't tank. You guys act like free agents won't ever sign here. We have always gotten good free agents to sign here, we aren't the Pistons or the Cavaliers bro. And we have a gang of picks and a ton of money coming off the books this season. Stone has a lot to work with here. Not saying tanking is a bad idea but there are other ways we can be contenders again without tanking.
     
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    its 50 percent that youll even have the pick
    and whats the chance it will be a franchise player? more lotery picks are busts then hits and
    even if its franchise player you are again more likely never to win because there are a lot of franchise players in NBA

    kawhi giannis butler draymond jokic curry klay all NON-lotery picks

    knowing how to draft and develop aka culture is more valuable than lotery picks
     
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    Lol it's not wrong bro, you just need to educate yourself on the CBA rules and stop listening to other people on this forum and taking their post as gospel. Read misconception #1, it's 60 days to aggregate salary after a trade....

    https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/02/four-common-misconceptions-about-nba-trades.html
     
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    even if you get the pick its mediocrity all over again whyd you think getting a top 4 pick will suddenly win you the championship lololol or change everything...

    WE ALREADY have that No 1 pick on our roster and its called john wall who nobody wants in nba btw lololol

    there is no substitute for winning!
     
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    I would love a 20 year old John Wall who averaged 16/5/8 and had no catastrophic injuries under his belt. A guy who was under contract for 4 years at $6 million per season...
     
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    Preach! It's something about losing as well. You can tell that this team loves playing with each other and that's why guys are playing so hard on defense. If you are a star NBA player and you want out of your current situation Houston is a great situation for them. You got guys like C Wood, VO, Wall, that all play extremely hard. You're thinking if you said star player if I can get to Houston and play with these boys we might have a shot. We have a lot of the pieces here already, just missing that bonafide star player imo. We need to focus on winning as many games possible, because winning will help us be able to trade away some of the guys posters on this board want to get rid of.
     
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    Yeah the tanking strategy is dumb at this point. This team is too talented. The draft is too risky just to blow everything up and move up and try to draft near the top; no guarantees of success. I think we can do some tinkering at the deadline and hope for the best with whatever pick we end up with
     
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    They changed the rules for the shortened season. There is an explanation on tradenba.
     
  10. Htown's Finest

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    Link?
     
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    Was hoping to be hunting for a top pick but I also say let the chips fall this season. OKC is still sneaky average and Miami is ravaged from Covid and might give up a top unprotected pick.
     
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    Top 4 pick or Bust!
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    No.
     
  14. HP3

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    John Wall is 30 and has had multiple injuries throughout his career. This is being scared.
     
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    How is it difficult for some to understand it is extremely difficult and unlikely for this rockets team to be one of the worst in the nba?

    They are one of the best defensive teams in the league without harden. They have good players still on the team.

    Sure, the rockets should and probably will trade some of those good players for draft assets to rebuild. But guess what? It's going to take time to facilitate a trade that will most benefit the rockets. Or do you pro tankers just want to give tucker and oladipo away as quickly as possible?

    There's also wall and gordon who have negative value at the moment. Are you proposing the rockets give up multiple draft picks to trade them in order to maybe bottom out and maybe get a 50% chance at a top 4 pick?

    Noone is against trading these or other players, but the reality is, it's going to take time find the right deal. The trade deadline is March 25th. If this team plays close the level they've been playing at... They most likely would've already won far too much by then to be a bottom 3 or 4 team.

    And that wouldn't be the end of the world. Why? Because if they're 7th worst or 9th worst they'll still have a fair chance to get into the top 4. If they're better and somehow make the playoffs, then at least fans get to be further entertained by the plucky, tough team from houston.
     
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    At this rate, the Rockets will keep their own pick.

    It's entirely possible that Miami will never pick it up again and it's entirely possible that OKC will be worse than the Rockets. We'll see what happens here but I don't think Butler is that good to single-handedly save their season and he can be a lockerroom problem when his teams start losing as he's shown time and time again at this point.

    So in the end...the Rockets might keep their own pick anyway and could still win the lottery anyway.

    Of course if some team offers a first rounder for EGO you do it but we should not be trying to gut our team desperately for a close to 50/50 shot at MAYBE keeping our pick. It's...just not a good idea or strategy.

    The team is simply too good to tank. Wall, Oladipo, Ego, Tucker, Wood, these guys aren't here to be the worst team in the league and Silas has been literally hired to be a Pop/Spo like coach that creates a winning culture. That's all the Rockets have been talking about. So people need to get it out of their heads. This isn't a tanking team.

    Even if we're mediocre we're still mediocre, we're still better than the bottom teams. Yeah, offense needs work, but the defense has been elite and that's going to win you a lot of games in the NBA.
     
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    People act like Houston is some terrible city when NBA players love it. SAS talks about that a lot and how he doesn't mind spending time here.

    The Rockets have NEVER had an issue getting big names here. Never.

    The logic of "We aren't NY or LA..." doesn't even make sense to me, shouldn't that mean we have to do MORE to make our team appealing to star players?

    Lakers could be complete trash and still attract players but other teams have to do more to do it.
     
  18. Trackwell

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    Most of y’all are clueless. The goal is to win it all ....

    I’d rather be horrible five years in a row to win one , then be decent for 7/8 years in a row and win zero

    I keep hearing how low of a probability that the tank even works .....


    Even if it was a low probability, it’s better than a zero probability if we stand pat ...it’s a 0% chance To start trending in the right direction to win it all if you continue to throw this trash out there


    I’m gonna laugh at you guys when stone agrees in the next couple of months....and half the players on our team with value are not going to be here anymore
     
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    Yeah, Miami had a 0% chance to win a championship last year and you're calling us clueless?
     
  20. Trackwell

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    What’s Miamis record right now....
    It’s looking like a fluke


    And they didn’t win, they didn’t come close to winning the finals.... Not even close... Nor will they win any championships ... Please show me the examples of these squads that are winning championships with your method other than maybe the Detroit Pistons in 2004
     
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