1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Damn, I love this team!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Jan 23, 2021.

  1. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    11,035
    Likes Received:
    12,025
    A part? Yes

    A BIG part? No

    With Harden this year we were averaging a little over 12 isolation plays per game. Without him we are averaging a little over 9. Which would still put us in the top 5(only about 1 isolation play less than Portland for league leader)of all teams in isolations per game because our team even without Harden has 3 guys in the top 40 of isolations per game. Wall, Wood and Gordon.

    Now, compared to prior years, we have clearly cut our isolations, but we are still projecting to be top 5ish in isos.
     
    HP3 and DCHAMP like this.
  2. aliadiere25

    aliadiere25 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2018
    Messages:
    2,429
    Likes Received:
    3,747
    People are getting carried away far too much.

    We'll probably lose to the Wizards and we'll be back to being the worst team in the league and people complaining about the team.
     
    GotGame15, juanm34 and jiggyfly like this.
  3. CXbby

    CXbby Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2002
    Messages:
    8,722
    Likes Received:
    10,748
    stfu
     
    Rockets34Legend likes this.
  4. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    this is where analytics is 'wrong' and why its never the case of 'its only numbers'... numbers never say anything, you always need eye test or opinion to attach to it, that is an interpretation
    imho
    there are multiple kinds of isolations...
    eg

    1 there is a drible dribble dribble for 20 s on the top of the key

    or

    2 you can move ball and bodies around for 20 seconds and still finish the possesion in the isolation...

    and there is a WORLD of difference between these 2

    Not that there is anything inherently wrong with either of them
     
    bro2044 likes this.
  5. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    there are also multiple kinds of ball movement

    rockets did have ball movement in harden era but boy it was a mere formality and you almost always just knew nobodys gonna do nothing with the ball and nothing will come out of it...it was mostly just a fluff

     
  6. thedude077

    thedude077 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2012
    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    1,318
    If they stay healthy, they're a 6th, or 7th seed team by the end of the season.
     
    bro2044, No Worries and cmlmel77 like this.
  7. Shark44

    Shark44 71er
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 1999
    Messages:
    4,176
    Likes Received:
    7,563
    Ditto!
     
    Rockets Rule and Rockets34Legend like this.
  8. Rockets34Legend

    Rockets34Legend Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    20,788
    Likes Received:
    15,675
    For me, I don't care. This team has fight. Its been a while since I have been this interested in watching the games. Let them lose....but at least they will be going down swinging and with heart.
     
    UTSA2step, CVcrew and hakeem94 like this.
  9. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    @don grahamleone

    we need a photoshop from pleistocene (or whatever) where a caveman and his buddies are lurking around clubbing the wild beasts or baby seals with faces of stone tilman nwaba tate wood etc pasted onto cavemen

    I could do it, but man this is a too good of an idea to be left to a sloppy photoshoper like me
     
    don grahamleone likes this.
  10. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    YES, and the dude is like the prime warriors never lost a game to a bad team
     
    saleem likes this.
  11. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    20 Features of this team that I love

    Its just start to the season but I am already seeing a contours of a serious team perhaps even a team winning the title like the Miami last year if not for the injuries ofc. And bear in mind its a pandemic situation so its perfect for a dark contenders perfect storm. Anyway, this team has a lot of features that were lacking in previous years.

    1. 4-5 allstar type players: Wall, Dipo, Wood, Cousins, EGO
    2. A lot of young and upcoming talent: Mason Jason, Porter, KJ, Tate
    3. A boatload of assets to make a serious trade and or a few smaller ones
    4. A great coach
    5. A lot of vets: Tucker, Wall, Dipo, Cousins, Ego
    6. A 2 times 6th man of the year: EGO
    7. SHOOTERS: ego, mason jason, brown
    8. Plenty of others that can also hit a 3: tate, nwaba, wood, boogie, dipo, almost anyone on the roster
    9. Great Bench
    10. Playmakers: ego, dipo, wall, tate, Boogie, brown, mason
    11. They play DEFENSE
    12. DEFENSIVE MINDED STUDS: Tucker, Nwaba
    13. a lot of 2 WAY players: Dipo, Wall, Brown, Tate, ego and couple of others, players that are not a huge liability on any side of the floor
    14. Bigs that can shoot 3: Boogie, Wood
    15. Bigs that can playmake: Boogie, Wood
    16. A young up and coming GM
    17. Ability to play teamball
    18. Dribble penetration: a lot of guys that can do this now, and this was severely lacking in previous era
    19. Slashers, cutters also lacking in previous era.
    20. It's a year of a pandemic.
     
  12. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Miami last year?

    LOL.
     
    HP3 likes this.
  13. studogg

    studogg Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Messages:
    5,960
    Likes Received:
    2,504
    barring significant injuries to our players, this is absolutely a playoff team. The offense is beautiful and the defense is unpredictable. And they haven't really gotten either down pat.

    Young developing players with high upside, check.

    Can we sign Mason to a team friendly three year deal in which we retain bird rights yet?

    Love the athleticism on this team.
     
  14. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,280
    Likes Received:
    13,011
    is the 9 their average in games without Harden or average for the whole season so far?
     
  15. Rockets34Legend

    Rockets34Legend Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    20,788
    Likes Received:
    15,675
    Made a few changes......but agree with everything above!
     
    bro2044 and hakeem94 like this.
  16. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    11,035
    Likes Received:
    12,025
    This Season : 11
    W/Harden : 12
    No Harden : 9

    Portland is 2nd at about 10 and the next 5-6 team are between 9-10.
     
    JayZ750 and HP3 like this.
  17. Imanimal

    Imanimal Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    2,718
    Likes Received:
    3,299
    Gotta tell you there are a bunch of hipocrits on this board. I was the only one to defend Stone after his initial introduction and got flamed by everybody on the board for saying he was going to be successful. People were ripping on him for being too quiet, stuttering, etc. Bring back any memories too most of you new “fans” of his?????
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  18. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    thank you! and let me add
    22. Athleticism

    something imho sorelly lacking in previous years
     
  19. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    hehe whats the joke?

    you dont agree its a team nobody thought of as a contender that almost won it all, were it not for the injuries, and where rookies and young undrafted and NON-lottery talent played a huge role?
     
  20. paboy1984

    paboy1984 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2020
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    225
    team is garbage
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now