Mo says Houston is first option, but can't envision playing with Webber

I think resigning Olajuwon would be the most important thing to do if Webber is not available for the rockets this off season
our other free agents like Taylor and Anderson should be resigned as well
losing Olajuwon would be as bad as the Astros not resigning
Ryan back in 1988 he is a legend and should retire here.
Sadly he and Fagen know it and they are trying to take advantage of the situation
but don't be surprised if Olajuwon is resigned for about six or seven million
with Taylor there are a lot of teams that would like to have him if we are going to resign him we would have to sign him soon after August 1 or he will go elsewhere
I don't think he will wait until the last minute waiting for us us to see if we can get Webber. it is going to get intristing
after the draft

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I think if Mo just works on his rebounds and is a little more aggressive, he's just as good as Webber. His offensive game is already solid, and he's got the body. He may not score as much as webber, but what do you expect with two monster scorers already on the team? I will be fully content with Mo if the Webber fiasco doesnt pan out. If Mo would just beef up on the boards, we would have a mini-webber in the middle.

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Yep. And, do we consider Web as a monster rebounder, or just someone who is average ? I know he has a very versatile offensive game, but is his rebounding and defense spectacular ?


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Webber averaged about 11 rebounds last season, which was 7th in the league. Maybe that's not monster, but hey, that's not bad. His defense is so-so. 1.33 steals per game last season. I consider getting a steal a game for a PF pretty good. He got 1.69 blocks per game last season. Kinda shaky. All in all, webber is pretty well rounded.

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When comparing Webber and Mo Taylor we must remember that Chris Webber almost played 15 more minutes a game than Mo Taylor.


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A desirous Mo Taylor is better than a prude Chris Webber.

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To attack a zone defense, a team MUST have great rebounding and great outlet passing. Mo Taylor brings neither to the game. If our guards are busy making up for Mo's rebounding deficiencies, no one will be attacking the zone.

Remember Otis Thorpe? Best outlet passer the Rockets have ever had. Webber reminds me of OT in that regard. Our fast break will improve 100% with improved outlet passing.

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c-webb is not just 'pretty well rounded'.
he's an MVP type player. he scores and boards in bulks. his team got swept by the mighty lakers and everyone thinks he chokes in playoffs.
remember vin baker? he cried playing c-webb.
and vinny was considered soft too (just like mo is, and even then vinny averaged 9 rpg) even when he was doing great in seattle. he signed a nice big contract and cant even make a free throw.

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Guys let me tell you all something I have not shared at all and just wanted to keep it to myself....... I live right across where the rockets practice at.... there is a Subway on the same side of the street as the practice facility... anyways, one day I was seating there eating away and before I knew it Mo T. was sitting all by himself right next to me, in a very politely manner I asked him if I could have his autograph and before I knew it he said I could join him... THRILL>>>>>yes it was!!! he did most of the talking, I pretty much said .. aha.. yeah, and right , the one thing and the only thing I will say is that just hearing him talk I can tell u guys that there is MAJOR chemistry on that team and he Loves it here so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if he was willing to give us a Mobley type of discount (thats only my personal opinion) it would be sad for the rockets organization to get rid of that kind of player that not only wants to be here but has great raport w/the organization (players and coaches alike) and only has nothing but upside... my goodness he's only 24 ya'll !! he still has things to learn and is only going to get better just like Francis and Mobley. To me that is an exciting thing to think about no doubt about it!

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3Pointer is a legit cat, and behad came correct. Now, although I agree with Behad, Im becoming sensitve and siding with 3 pointer and MO Taylors genuine love for a texas meatball sandwich.


Mo's my age, he's young, he's great with the mark Berman, he wants to stay in Houston, he's sitting all alone munching on a subway in H-town talking to 3pointer, just being one of the guys, I'm getting sensitve. You know what? Screw Webber, vescey, and his sidekick jason williams.

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A desirous Mo Taylor is better than a prude Chris Webber.

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Damn 3pointer that's an awesome story. I've been of the opinion most of the time that we shouldn't sign Webber. Mo can be that 3rd scorer on this team, and at his age, that guarantees the Rockets will have a solid foundation for many many many years.

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If we're going to rely on one person to rebound for us (Mo Taylor or Chris Webber), we're in a lot of trouble anyway. Obviously this team will have to gang rebound. Maurice Taylor's rebound should go up. I don't know why he is compared to Webber, Webber is a megastar, Mo is a good player with the potential to be very good. As long as he is aggressive he is perfect for this team. People have to realize that this was a brand new team Mo came to, with a different personality, and he wasn't used to being a successful team that had different, unselfish options. So what happened, he deferred to much to Cat and Francis and it hurt his scoring. As for his rebounding, he is a decent rebound, even this year. Give him another year and he should be fine. Get us a good rebound center or SF (like Rahim) and it would do wonders. Definitely keep Mo and add shore up the weakened positions on the team.

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You can take off the blindfold now.



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Exactly,...C-Webb is mo better!

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I bet everyone on the team likes Mo. From 3pointer's story he sounds like a really good guy. I'm glad Mo understands that this is a business decision. You don't get many opportunities to sign an All-Star, MVP caliber player. I don't think this will end like Quitten's situation - Webber and Francis are close. If Webber wants to wait to make his decision, I say we go forward without him.

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Remember Otis Thorpe? Best outlet passer the Rockets have ever had.

Thorpe was indeed a good outlet passer, but Sampson was the best in Rocket's history.

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That is one of the coolest personaly stories I have ever heard, 3pointer. Damnit to hell, it sucks living in Dallas!

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Blood stains on my hands, and I don't know where I've been.
I'm in trouble for the things I haven't got to yet.
I'm chomping at the bit, and my palms are getting wet.
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Runnin', Ravin', Endin', Out.

 

For those who really want rebounding, you could sign Mo Taylor and Jerome "Junkyard Dog" Williams or Mo Taylor and facilitate the Magic by taking Outlaw off their hands, for the price of Chris Webber.

Cato's going to lead the league in rebounding anyway, right?

Personally, if the Wizards gave us the chance for the #1 pick by taking on bad contracts like Richmond, that would ruin a chance at CWebb, but would leave us enough to sign Mo, I'd take it.

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Who would you take at 1 Nike? Brown?

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Personally, if the Wizards gave us the chance for the #1 pick by taking on bad contracts like Richmond, that would ruin a chance at CWebb, but would leave us enough to sign Mo, I'd take it.

I can't see the Wizards being willing to move down to #13 just to get rid of Richmond's contract. The reason that Washington doesn't really want the first pick is that there is no obvious first choice. The top 5 or 6 guys are pretty equal. Supposedly Jordan really wants Rodney White. If they move down to 13 they won't get White or any of the other top tier guys. I think the obvious trade partner for the Wizards is Golden State. GS could get the top pick and Washington could take White at #5 and Tinsley (who Jordan also likes) at #14. How is an extra $5M in cap space really going to help the Wizards? Would it even put them under the cap and if so by how much? They're better off just buying out Richmond and hanging on to #1.

To me our best shot to move up is still Chicago. After them, I'd have to think that it would be NJ. I did think that Vancouver would be a possibility, but with the way the draft is shaking out, there's a possibility that a center will fall to them and I think that they'll hang on to their pick.


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aelliot nailed it. Chicago is the best chance the Rockets have at moving up. With the ego Krause has, he'll pass up a better offer from an eastern conference team to deal with the Rockets IMO. Why would he deal with Detroit or Boston? Both those teams are closer to the playoffs than the Bulls, and I don't see Krause helping them out. If you look at Krause's history, he's mainly dealt with western conference teams in trades, with the exception being the trade with Cleveland for Oakley.

Look at his track record. He traded Caffey to Golden State, Pippen to Houston, Polynice to Seattle, and Brent Barry to Seattle. This a guy who picked a player that didn't fit on his team, Fizer, just to blockade a prearranged deal between the Clippers and Magic to keep Daruis Miles out of the eastern conference. He doesn't like helping out teams that are ahead of him in the eastern conference, and since the Rockets are the only western conference team aside from the Warriors trying to move up in the draft, it makes sense that Chicago would be the most likely trading partner.

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