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Biden's executive orders

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ryan_98, Jan 21, 2021.

  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    the homes and apartments people live in, the food they eat, the roads they travel, etc all those thanks to immigrants

    and everyone in america was in immigrant one time and they're decended from immigrants

    I think its a mixture of selfishness like they don't want others to have the same opportunities and benefits they or their decendants have

    and insecurity because they believe immigrants are gonna take their jobs away and gonna have a better life than them
     
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    President Biden please allow conservative views on this website without being lynched
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    So asking the federal government to regulate a private site and one that is relatively small for diversity. That’s an interesting take on “Conservative”
     
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    Here.....this should go well with your whine.
     
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    Trump is gone but Nativism still sells.

    Leaving aside any arguments about this being a nation of immigrants policies to punish immigrants are not only going impractical but costly. Immigration legal or illegal is a supply and demand issue. Putting in harsh regulations to limit it will not only have negative economic repercussions but also be difficult to enforce and just lead to strengthen the black market. If safety and security is the primary concern for controlling the border that is actually helped by bringing immigration more inline with supply and demand as that will decrease the incentive to go through the black market.
     
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    If you want to talk about a time in the US when most current federal agencies including the INS didn't even didn't exist as some rationale for why we can't enforce immigration law then that's just nonsense and something you might read on a t-shirt sold on Etsy or something. Like countries in the New World, at some point we go from being a country without much of an identity that welcomes all immigrants to a country of Americans that is more selective in the people and the skills that we bring into the country just like happens around the world.

    And immigrants don't distribute themselves throughout the country in ghost towns they go where there are jobs to be had. They take carpenter jobs that used to be had by Americans and construction work that used to be had by Americans and they drive around in old trucks with paper plates because they don't register their vehicles like I have to do every year which isn't exactly doing much for culture, flooding border hospitals for free health care and free deliveries doesn't do much for culture, overcrowding schools doesn't do much for culture, stealing social security numbers doesn't do anything for culture, flying in pregnant women to stay in a hotel and have babies so they can become Americans doesn't do anything for culture.
     
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    LOL when is inciting violence for made up fraud conservative?
     
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    Can you say stirred
     
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    any time a conservative friend of mine states that their free speech rights are being limited by tech companies I ask them whether XI Jingping making it illegal for Chinese social media companies to moderate his comments or his supporters' comments is embracing free market principles.
     
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    Biden and team doing work! I wasn't expecting much, but this may be even better than the Obama admin. The old team is more experienced and hitting the ground running; after 4 years of big deficit spending Republicans will look silly trying to block spending. Very optimistic :)
     
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    Spending what money? You mean printing money?
     
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    Usd. I don't think u even need to print anything. Just update the treasury's ledger with the fed.
     
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    Explain?
     
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    What?
     
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    I'm all for this
     
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    How does that result in us having enough money?
     
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    A fairly simplistic view of things that leaves a lot out. Yes immigrants go to where the jobs are. Most people tend to go to where the jobs are that is supply and demand. For an area that is booming economically though you're going to need labor to do the work. That "illegal" aliens are willing to go and work actually allows economic development to happen faster. For example during the oil boom in ND the Hispanic population suddenly exploded in ND because there was a huge need for construction workers. Contractors there couldn't hire fast enough because much of the American workforce wasn't that mobile or that willing to go Lewiston, ND to build houses, stores and etc.. in the winter. Also these people weren't working for starvation wages and overall wages for labor in ND during the boom were very high even with the influx of labor.

    Also this view that immigrants are just here for free healthcare and education and just parasitizing us isn't true. In nearly all studies show that immigrants, including "illegal", is a net benefit to the US economy. While there might be some stress in localities even illegal immigrants still add to the tax base. Consider in TX there isn't an income tax so labor isn't taxed in TX in the first place. Immigrants still pay sales and other taxes because even if they aren't here legally they still eat, drive and do other things that are taxed.

    Finally immigrants aren't taking jobs from Americans. Through most of the past year ten years we've had very low unemployment. If immigrants were taking jobs from Americans we should've seen a rise in unemployment members. If anything the last 10 years there's been a great need for employment with many industries such as construction and agriculture not having enough. Further there is nothing preventing Americans who's families have been here for generations to go out and pick strawberries or work meat packing lines. It's obvious that few native born Americans are willing to do that. Without an influx of immigrant labor we're likely to see not only high inflation in those sectors but also shortages.
     
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    The market would pay more if the labor market wasn't flooded. Ppl would do those jobs. You are not looking at this from a largely economic view.

    Simple supply and demand. Lower the labor supply... demand goes up. The price of labor too. Meaning a larger middle class bc ppl make more.
     

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