Those are all issues Congress has to legislate on and have nothing to do with what Biden did. Biden just streamlined the priorities of immigration enforcement. If you care about maximizing enforcement of existing laws, you should support what Biden did as it will produce the most streamlined deportation process possible given the existing court backlogs. Republicans like to pretend that prioritizing deportations was somehow amnesty or soft on illegal immigrants but in a resource constrained judicial system, it is by far the most effective use of our limited enforcement resources.
Deporting adults who have lived here most of their lives is still cruel. I'm guessing you have benefitted off the decisions your parents made, as I have. Holding other people to actions they had no choice over reeks of undeserved self-entitlement. I'm all for Congress passing well needed reforms that codifies the status of non-citizens and de-incentivizes employers that pull them in for cheap-under-the-table labor. Straight up deportation is also more trouble in costs, logistics, moral ambiguities, and personal hardship than what it's worth. It also presumes they added nothing to our society or economy while living here and their loss won't impact the communities they live in (murderers, rapists and thugs, amirite?). As long as there are job opportunities here, illegals will flock over the border and risk deportation. They mainly stopped flooding in when covid shut down many small businesses and public safety became a multiplier in risk for people who can't rely on public services.
This is not at all correct - it only applies to people who were here prior to 2007. It's pretty clear you don't know how DACA works.
Low level Americans are afraid of Dreamers because they are higher achieving than they are....they think cause they were born here they should get a leg up, sorry charlie...give me the best and the brightest..... DD
not exactly an executive order, but cool anyway Joyce Karam @Joyce_Karam Wow. VOA Dir. Robert Reilly is FIRED by Biden admin and escorted by Guards. He reprimanded reporter @pwidakuswara last week for asking Qs to Pompeo, removed her from assignment. He's at least #5 official to be fired in last 24hrs. AP:
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They’ll come either way so long as American companies offer them work and money, and their home countries are politically unstable. If you want to stop illegal immigration, you enforce a “death penalty” and expensive fines for any company knowingly hiring illegal immigrants. Then start paying additional subsidies to produce farmers and grocers who depend on migrant workers to keep produce prices low, because otherwise, produce availability will decrease and consumers/voters will start b****ing about paying $6 per orange and $12 for a bag of salad (non-organic). Furthermore, you’ll have to start spending additional time, tax dollars and diplomatic karma working to solve a host of political issues in Latin America, with each country having a unique set of challenges. Or you can try building a wall.
This is true in a better reading but there's nothing to stop Biden from creating his own DACA timeline and in 20 years another President creating his own DACA timeline. The average age of current DACA recipients is still 24 and many people in their thirties are also eligible. These are not children.
What I find interesting about the immigration debate is that many illegals from Europe came to the USA well over 100 years ago and we hear nothing about it other than “my great grandparents did it the right way to come here legally” which in many cases is the biggest load of ****. In the 1700’s German’s just started appearing without documentation and were aliens in the colonies and after the revolution. The response? They were required to take an oath and were made legal citizens. They were not deported. The first naturalization act in the USA was very similar to DACA and naturalized all that were in the USA for two years and not criminals. The history of America is full of times where immigrants came over without citizenship and were naturalized later by proclamation... this includes Italians, Scottish, Irish and Eastern Jews. There are examples of some groups being conveniently excluded, for example Chinese and Japanese in the 1880’s through 1920’s. The USA is certainly worse for it in every way from cultural to economically. Many of the Asians went to Canada instead and have been very successful. Same is true for some groups of Eastern Europeans the USA purposely excluded and Canada allowed in. The strength of the USA has been an influx of socially mobile immigrants from around the globe and Mexicans and other South Americans are no different. They are overall good for the economy. They are productive and they have in most cases been here for years. There is no shortage of land or resources in the USA either.
I’m talking about a company death penalty, but my main point is that deporting every illegal would have massive repercussions - we’d be paying higher than Europe prices for produce, for restaurant meals, for construction and landscaping and many, many additional things. You see a path to citizenship as encouraging lawlessness, but in reality, it would be but a minor reward for all the ways their labor has subsidized our economy and lifestyle in the US.
Biden should make Americans take an annual test to determine who should be asked to leave the country to make room for more useful newcomers! To be serious, though, the country, certain localities especially, can use a significant increase in population. I've traveled to enough places around the country (take, for example, Albany NY) to see that there is plenty of room for more people.
Not sure why anyone would have an issue with people who already live here becoming US citizens. People complain that undocumented people don’t pay taxes, utilize resources etc...well this solves that problem. I’ve never understood why we make it so easy to get here but so difficult to become a citizen. Those of you commending the ban on drilling on federal lands and the keystone shutdown, I hope you don’t live in Houston. The ban (which will take years due to permit loading before) will cost a lot of middle class Texans in oil and gas jobs and lead to further consolidation in the upstream sector which benefits no one but the major corporations. WRT the Keystone, they are just continuing to ship crude by rail cars which is more environmentally dangerous than running oil through a newly constructed pipeline with SCADA systems for leak detection and shutdown valves.
No I understand. I think in this country we too often try to hold companies instead of the people running those companies accountable. We've spent 40 years funneling cheap labor into service industries and construction so it would take some time to reconfigure the economy and expand a migrant worker documentation system. You can't disappear 12 million people overnight, no question. A path to citizenship for people who've already broken the law is an incentive for future people to do the same just like Reagan's amnesty. It's breathtakingly unfair for people around the world who follow the law to wait a decade to get citizenship whereas Mexicans, Central and South Americans can just sneak across the border. I don't think it's a mystery why we have the problem. We incentivize people to come here illegally and even people to abuse the visa system and stay here illegally.
