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Laying the XL Pipe

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

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    BREAKING NEWS: Carson blasts Obama over nixing the Keystone.: "Where will we store our grain now?"
     
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    Big oil lost interest years ago. It isn't the dead bang money maker that it was several years ago.... and that doesn't look to change for the next 5 years.
     
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    Big Oil runs the Albertan Tar Sands. They run the Canadian oil industry. If it wasn't Big Oil pushing this, who was it?

    The pipeline company wasn't spending billions on a pipeline that Big Oil didn't want. It wasn't quashed because of economic viability-- and the economics of it isn't the President's call.
     
  4. dragician

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    Im in favor of a pipeline from Colorado to Texas if they don't allow mar1juana here.
     
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    This action sets a precedence for other pipelines. Let's not act ignorant or naive that there are other pipelines planned for the future to move tar sands oil out of Canada. And why do you care so much about Big Oil?
     
  6. Cohete Rojo

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    I did a little bit of recon on Google:
    [rQUOTEr]
    Obama has allowed more coal to be mined on federal land than Bush—and he may not be done

    If President Obama is committed to curbing CO2 emissions, then why is his administration even considering a host of new coal production lease applications on federally owned land?

    It’s a question that has Brian Moench, a surgeon and the president of the Utah Physicians for a Healthy Environment, deeply concerned. This month, he issued a 96-page report warning about the dangers of continued coal mining expansion on government-owned territory in the mountain west’s Powder River Basin.

    Right now, 40 percent of U.S. coal production comes out of federal lands, mostly in the mountainous west—a fact that can be overlooked due to the traditional geographic connotations of coal country.[/rQUOTEr]

    Here is a link to the lease data. Sounds like Obama is fighting global warming by increasing federal coal leases so that he can reject the XL-Pipeline. Makes sense.
     
  7. SuraGotMadHops

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    Nothing to kickstart a bad economy by cancelling the Keystone Pipeline permit on your first day on the job, killing 11,000 U.S. jobs and contributing to increase in gas prices. First game in and Biden has already thrown a pick 6, first of many. This will be a Schaubish administration.
     
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    Biden is already a failed president*
     
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    A deal is never a deal in politics. It’s only as good as the administration that made it. Personally, my thinking is that deals should have clauses in them with severe consequences for parties breaking the deal to a point where breaking the deal becomes very problematic and it no longer makes sense to do so. Otherwise, deals are as worthless as the paper they are written on.

    This deal was just another example of Dems not wanting this while Repubes did. Trump is on record as saying this was “good for the environment”. Uh huh.
     
  10. jiggyfly

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/energy...ll-be-created-by-keystone-xl/?sh=3fd8923c5bb1

    Nope.

    In January of 2010, Trans-Canada CEO Russell Girling claimed that the project would produce 13,000 construction jobs. In April of 2011 the number grew to 20,000, which the Canadian Ambassador reiterated in August 2011. In January 2012 the number was revised back down to 13,000 and this past April the company revised that number even lower, to 9,000 construction jobs. Meanwhile, both the federal government and the Global Labor Institute at Cornell University’s College of Industrial and Labor Relations examined TransCanada’s application and made their own job creation estimates, at 6,000-6,500 and 2,500-4,500 respectively. A State Department study projects only 35 permanent jobs in pipeline maintenance and inspection. Although it seems likely that the Keystone XL Pipeline’s application will eventually be approved by the Obama Administration, firmer numbers will not be available until the project gets underway.



    How has gas been so cheap since we have not had this glorious pipeline?
     
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  11. SuraGotMadHops

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    This article is more than 7 years old.
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    This thread is almost a decade old.
     
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    And nothing has changed.

    Those job numbers where always bogus.
     
  14. SuraGotMadHops

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    Yeah, the thread lost steam when Trump approved it and nobody had any complaints about it for four years. Now it's bumped because Biden just revoked it yesterday. Funny how that works.

    Then you have JigglyPuff trying to refute new information by posting an article with information from way back when Obama was still President.

    Gotta love it. Keep the Pick 6's coming folks.
     
  15. glynch

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    At least the XL Pipeline machines and pipes can be scrapped so it wasn't quite as big a waste as the hundreds and hundreds of rusted equipment and scrapnel that we left in Iraq while killing a million folks and creating ISIS. Both debacles did provide some wages and big profits for a few.
     
  16. jiggyfly

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    Can you post anything to refute my numbers?

    What year are your numbers from?
     
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    You voted for Trump. Trump incited an insurrection that invaded our Capitol and tried to overturn our democracy. Nothing you say matters.
     
  19. SuraGotMadHops

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    Bahahahahah, great logic. Biden can throw as many pick 6's as he wants and nobody is allowed to call it out. Nice.
     
  20. Surfguy

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    How much of the pipe has been laid? Are we going to have half a pipeline laid that just sits there and rusts? This is unacceptable.

    Perhaps we can use the pipe to use vertically as a fence border between Canada and the US. And, Canada is going to pay for it. ;)
     

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