Overboard or one sided irrational fear?

Get help. You may be part of a brainwashed cult if you are still posting in Trump's defense. Denial is a sign. You may say you don't stand for him now, but your posts say otherwise. He lost, fair and square. Deal with it and move on. It's the healthy thing to do now.

 

Overboard a bit, but it's not a lie to say that if you voted for Trump knowing anything about Trump's platform, you obviously are at least mildly interested in the United States of America becoming an autocracy and changing our previously held positions that Democracy is a good thing.

Sorry if you don't want to be called an autocrat because that sounds bad, but it is the truth. A poll just the other day noted that something like half of Trump voters actually wanted Trump to go further in his efforts to turn over a Democratic election. I don't really have to say much further.

 

Seriously, with everything going on this is what you are deeming thread worthy?

 

The LAW and ORDER (DUNH dunh theme) President is now a cop killer. And people still back him?

 

If you voted for him you are not.

If you still support him after 6 January then you are. You are a traitor.

 

if up to this day you are still defending trump...

 

Republican voters should worry less about the left, and focus more on the radicals who are hijacking their party. They politicize issues that shouldn't be politicized. The QAnon theories are worse than amateur fan fiction.

Are there still a number of moderate republicans left in Congress? Those are the ones, the republican voters should throw their support.

Come back to the middle.

 

I don't think so.
If 74 million americans support autocracy then a civil war is unavoidable.
However it seems that many of them are either uneducated, racist OR and it should be the majority :tribal, blind and misguided.
I mean if it doesn't even cross your mind that democracy can be threatened by Trump you are totally blind to the danger to cast a vote for him.

I wouldn't take the elections as a referendum on the democratic sentiment of the american nation.

 

A seditionist says what?

 

Serving in the US infantry, I would be considered for security if it's MAGA folks like the peers I served with. It's definitely a rational concern as we have precedent of MAGA supporting law enforcement joining in on the insurrection. We have police union presidents from some of the largest police unions in the country in support of the insurrectionists.

You need to be part of that culture to realize the threat. It's obvious you are a LARPer who's only experience with firearms is in the field of being a hobby. You haven't interacted with these type of people for extended periods of time. You are speaking from ignorance.

 

Also at this point if you still support MAGA, you believe the election was stolen. Americans have been conditioned to believe if the government performing a transgression and all legal recourse has been expended, that violence is the solution (2nd amendment). So at this point any MAGA service number probably believes there is rightful justification for violence here because if you sincerely believe the election was stolen and the second amendment exists to fight tyranny, then what do you think is the natural conclusion for these people?

 

The threat of domestic terrorism according to the FBI is really high among right wing former military types. This predates the current political climate.

What I want to know is why the GOP adherents have such a struggle coping with these facts? I mean none of this is new. It's not like we want this to be true. I would rather live in a world where this doesn't cross my mind.

 

Nicely put it.

Freedom of speech and expression allows people to do a lot of things in America, perhaps a bit too much (e.g. hate speech is protected), but this is obviously a much better setup than oppressive political systems like Russia, China and Iran.

Still, the one thing our political system does not allow is for politicians and the populace to turn against the very institutions that are protecting our liberties. This is precisely what Trump, Cruz, Giuliani, Hawley and so many others in the WH have expressly done, along with hundreds of insurrectionists. They all committed crimes and in due time they will be prosecuted. In my book, no mercy.

 

Exactly. You are a LARPer. Your experience is listening to stories of veterans rather than living with them and fighting alongside them. You have a jaded hero complex worship of them (except for those who have different political opinions I guess).

So please leave the concerns about right wing extremism in the military to people with actual experience.