Staying competitive means mia pick and a team of assets. Tanking means 50% chance at still the mia pick but a team full of sh*t. Okc didn't tank last year and was bounced in the first round, was it pointless? It allowed them to flip the cp3 contract at a profit. You want to dump Wall or eg now it will cost you most the picks we just got. If you keep them then we 1. won't be bad enough to get a top 4 pick 2. Even if we were bad enough its 50/50 we gift it to okc. Trying to remain competitive this year is the obvious choice. You try to dump Wall and Eg in the offseason after a playoff run, and then tank next year when you have full control of your pick.
YES lol I do get it. There is no value on this team player wise besides Wood and future draft picks. There are a bunch of guys that could maybe end up being a decent 8th or 9th guy off the bench in 3 years but playing them you give them experience to hopefully improve. Gordon is a negative contract. Wall is a negative contract. Oladipo is injury risk that expires at the end of the season, and age wise probably does not factor into the Rockets future. The fact that the team pretty much sucks means that it will be very hard to be better than 8th or 9th worst in the NBA. Then you add on top that if the rockets are not top 4 they also have to give their pick away. That then increases the reason to position yourself to not be 8th or 9th and lose your pick but try to keep the pick by being bottom 3. Oladipo being traded would now be the biggest push to finish there. While also bringing another future pick. At that time you start getting to the point where you have enough future picks where you can trade some to trade for a player to pair with Wood/ or clear cap space by trading Wall while still having picks to actually draft player at positions of need. Whatever "semblance" of value that would be lost can be made up next year. Regardless we have zero say in this and their actions will likely show their intentions soon enough.
Cp3 was a negative contract, the worst in the league, until his team competed and it wasn't. Using the picks that we finally accumulated just to dump Wall and save Tilman money makes no sense. It's possible to rehabilitate his value, but not by tanking this year.
I don't think there is a choice in avoiding tanking for this team. I hope Wall can make it back soon, but there is no timetable for his "knee soreness" on the same knee he had surgery on before. Boogie is BBQ chicken. Tucker has one foot out the door. Wood is having a spectacular year, but other than him we don't have any other decent players over 6'6" and we don't have a PG without Wall. I really like Oladipo and maybe they do commit to him during the 2 months before the trade deadline, but it would be unsurprising and fair to Oladipo if they flipped him.
Ya'll think just because we have a bad year every player's value will be completely gone...? It literally does this franchise no good to fight for a play-in spot! More than likely we'd just miss the playoffs anyway and that 50% chance at a top 4 pick becomes a 0% chance and we stand exactly where we would have been if we just lost out in the lottery. As for the OKC example... 1. Oladipo isn't Chris Paul. 2. He can only be traded at the deadline, if we keep him and go for a playoff spot, he likely walks in the offseason and we get nothing for him. So are we trying to drive up the value of PJ? He is what he is. Wall is untradeable until his contract year anyway, unless you attach a pick! EG can play well and drive up his trade value without necessarily impacted W's and L's. And as much as OKC seems like a good template, last years "run" (if you want to call it that) only delayed their rebuild. If they could have flipped CP3 immediately they would have. Guys, with every year we wait to bit this bullet, the longer we will be in NBA purgatory. We're a good 2 years away from the next superstar wanting a new team, and just having decent assets to trade doesn't guarantee that we will get him. Cade Cunningham, Jalen Suggs, Jalen Green, Evan Mobley, Jonathan Ziare Williams are right there! Don't have to give up assets for it one of them either! See the big picture! There is no other choice!
Rockets won't be bad enough to get a Top 4 pick, but they'll hand over a Top 10 pick The Westbrook trade ruined this franchise, which was obvious from the day it was made.
So don't dump Wall or Ego.... they are gonna miss games regardless and trade Tucker and Dipo. The problem is, this team isn't competitive so I don't see how pretending to be competitive is anymore fruitful than letting chips fall where they fall in regards to the draft.
CP3 stayed healthy and had a good year because his game isn't reliant on athleticism. I don't understand why we would offload Wall with a pick this season, we are going to bad enough with him playing or missing games.
Well to be honest the NBA cycle is a dynasty team, or nothing. Winning a ring is extremely rare among franchises; by far the lowest % of franchises in sports have won championships - even all time, and if you reduce the time horizon to 30, 20, 10 years it gets incredibly low compared to NHL/NFL/MLB. Parity in the NBA isn't really a thing. Some teams stay like the Knicks and Magic and Pelicans and Hornets. Nowdays you either get superfriends who need to win for their shoe deals and egos, or you just enjoy the ride. Or you somehow get Scott Foster and the refs to love you.
So our draft pick is if outside the top 4. best of Houston, OKC, Miami (top 2 go to OKC) and worst of 3 go to us. I see all 3 of us being in lower playoff seed/outside of playoffs. Miami is best a 6 seed so worst case we pick 18-25 Okc ranges from 6-10 seed for me too So do we range 6-10ish unless we tank and get lucky with the #1 pick. Wall Cade House Tate Wood that’s pretty much all we need to get back to 4-5 seed contention. If we keep Oladipo with Cade we could grow him into a nice player 6 man to mvp style. Winning is the best way to develop a top prospect. That’s really the reason behind why harden became so great in 2009 his rookie year. KD and Russ brought forth a winning/hard working culture which forced him to develop better. Once u find ur franchise guy in the draft and if we get lucky with it by the lottery balls bouncing our way. If we stick in the position we are in. We can really get back to the top the quickest. Cade if he can get his shot right can be the closest thing to having James. Would have to stack the team with shooters obviously.
Ummm, what? Rockets pick is top 4 protected with OKC. They don't need the #1 overall pick to keep their pick, they only need to get within the top 4. But since the lottery can bring a team into the top 3 outside of those teams then us getting the 3rd worst record in the league will most likely net us top 4 at worse thus Rockets can keep their pick.
We have a 52% chance of a top 4 pick if we have any one of the bottom 4 records. And the chances of getting a top 4 pick drops steadily from there. http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds
OKC was also the gambled away 3 MVPs without winning anything big...... Who does that? They are definitely not the parameter for normalcy.
He's had knee surgery on that knee. https://bleacherreport.com/articles...y-timeline-to-return-from-injury-is-6-8-weeks
This is the season to start the bottoming out (not tanking) and clearing cap space. I think resigning Dipo would be an underwhelming mistake (although I can understand on trying to sign him to good deal and potentially flip him later). Woods and Dipo would be an underwhelming rebuild foundation. Clearing space not only helps get in a better draft position but makes us flexible/predatory.
between wall/boogie/ego/oladipo/exum, tilfuk guaranteed to have insurance cover a good part of payroll all season long. how convenient
