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Capitol rioters want Trump to pardon them

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    Trump doesn't care about them. He has nothing to gain from doing it, so he won't.
     
  3. No Worries

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    Can Trump pardon a nameless group? Or does Trump have to name the names?

    I suspect that not all rioters have been named.
     
  4. Hakeemtheking

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    Trump can mass pardon a group of people. Doesn't even need the names.
     
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    #5 London'sBurning, Jan 16, 2021
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    If Trump does pardon these people it might be the push needed for conviction in the Senate. As noted the Founders specifically cited abuse of pardon power as grounds for impeachment and whether Trump pardons the Capitol invaders or not the trial in the Senate will happen.
     
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    he will pardon people who were involved in a violent riot in the US Capitol

    which he incited

    and he is being impeached for
     
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    He is selling pardons for money already. 2 million for one.
    If Congress wanted to convict him they would already have but seems even if he commits murder in live TV the GOP will do nothing.
     
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    This has to be illegal, if true. But, then again, isn't a lot of Trump's dealings shady or corrupt?

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-pardons-2649965885/
     
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    True but impeachment and the trial in the Senate has always been more political than legal. Given that the invaders literally were on the floor of the Senate Trump pardoning might push enough reluctant Senators to convict.

    Also I'm not so sure about Trump selling pardons and would be interested in seeing a link on this but he clearly has used pardons to reward people like Roger Stone from cooperating with investigations into him.
     
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    I always wear pajamas when asking for pardons.

    true story though: the Catholic Church used to sell pardons for your sins, in the way back.
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/17/rudy-giuliani-associate-john-kiriakou-trump-pardon
     
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    What is she ****ing stupid? The maggot dumbasses that think trump cares about them are bottom of the barrel
     
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    Private prop plane... classic rich Trump supporter -- from the trailer to the capital.

    But it was a turbo pusher prop!

    Peasant.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I read the story from Malakas and the NYT about Trump insiders offering to sell pardons. If pardons can be tied directly to a financial gain from Trump or his insiders I would say that is more time to test if the Article 2 section 2 pardon power can be used under impeachment.

    Also that should be grounds for criminal charges even after Trump is out of office.
     
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    $2m to get in line. 10m to get into top 10. 100m for top 3.
     
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    She could be facing something far worse that prison ... community service.
     
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