Shams - Philly offered Simmons/Thybulle + draft compensation. Did we make the right deal?

Apparently Simmons is "ecstatic" he didn't get traded to Houston. We 100% took the better deal here.

Swap a disgruntled MVP for a disgruntled "star" that can't shoot would have been bad. Simmons would have forced his way out of here in no time.

 

Teams will trade for him at some point in the next year if he is healthy. Most likely the Rockets would get other similar length contracts aggregated together to match Wall’s contract and a #1 or possible a couple #1’s with draft protections. He has to show he is healthy first.

There are plenty of ways for the Rockets to manufacture #1 picks (like OKC is) by taking on bad contracts over the next couple years. The problem is I am not sure Tilman will allow that. With the Rockets sucking for at least the next 3-4 years, I think we will see him try to get close to the minimum salary number and get payments from the league... that will let him off set when attendance falls and concessions.

 

But Simmons-Wood would have been crazy in PnR.

And unlike Wall, Simmons would have increased Rockets pace and turned transition offense into a legitimate threat.

And Simmons + Thybulle would have been immense boost to painfully bad Rockets defense.

Wall should run 2nd unit.

Just like he should have when Harden was on team.

 

Did these guys get it wrong?

They list Taurean Prince as going to Rockets.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/james-harden-trade-leaves-nets-shorthanded-vs-knicks/

 

yup. it's terrible. when the nets played philly last week they had DJ guarding simmons and DJ stayed camped in the paint. happens so much. having him on this team and roster would be abysmal

 

He was sent to Cavs along with Allen

 

I like the idea of Oladipo doing well here and moving him for more picks before the trade deadline.

TF sure as well wont pay him

 

With agent Rich Paul, yeah Simmons wouldve bounced if he wanted.

 

So did Harden and CP3, Westbrook, Wall...

 

Totally forgot about that. Avoided the bullet there imo. Simmons would have forced his way out no doubt with Rich Paul.

 

KD has one injury that already knocked him out for a season. Getting older doesn't make that less likely to happen!

Your last sentence is borderline comical considering a similar rationale was used to justify a certain trade last year that didn't work out so well.

There are a lot more Carmelos than there are Lebrons. Maybe Harden will be Lebron but he hasn't shown anywhere close to the same dedication to his body that Lebron has and Lebron is also an alien.

 

Any suggestions on who? I glanced quickly and didn’t really find any matches.

 

Low first? You have a crystal ball or something?

Harden going to Philly would def result in much lower pick than Harden to Nets.

 

should the Rockets do trade with Morey? i don;t think so

 

Chris Paul and Westbrook are not good examples of easy going stars at all. Kyrie can leave for assets thats fine. KD and Harden respect each other and cherish their time on OKC. Add that to the fact that KD isnt a dumpster fire of a player and you have what works.

 

Cp3 is not easy to play with. Harden was never staying with Wall. And Westbrook wanted out because who knows why, either way none of those guys are the hall mark for easy guys to play with.

 

That’s what sucks here. If I had any faith we were starting a Process, I’d get my head around it. But it’s far more likely we’re going to get back teens picks from this trade while giving up lotto picks from the Paul trade.

 

Lol, oh my god.

Harden to Philly would actaully give us a chance at a high pick. With this we have a bunch mediocre picks. LOL yall are just banking that 3 of the best offensive players in the league are gonna fail.....

 

A further point on Harden aging, Morey not willing to empty the chamber to get him with future unprotected picks and even a very speculative young player like Maxey should tell you where he stands on that.

If Morey thought MVP James as a cohesive teammate for the next 4 years was likely he 100% gives up almost anything we want to pair him with Embiid.

 

Common denominator?