1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

  2. Watching NBA Action
    Come join Clutch as we're watching NBA Play-In Tournament action live ...

    LIVE: NBA Playoffs!
    Dismiss Notice

(PFT) : Omar Khan was offered the job until Jack Easterby showed up to Cal’s House.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ReturnOfTheMac, Jan 10, 2021.

  1. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    48,056
    Likes Received:
    14,297
    If they got proper value back, including at least one first round pick... and knowing that Watson not only survived but improved overall... and seeing what the Vikings got back for Diggs or that Hopkins still wasn't able to single-handedly get his team towards the playoffs?

    But yes, I agree that everything about the trade as it is now was bad.
     
  2. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2001
    Messages:
    19,116
    Likes Received:
    20,867
    Does all of this sound like some fictional tale made up by someone with either an axe to grind or just wanting their time in the spotlight? Possibly but given how things went down the FIRST time the Texans wanted Caserio (and all of the info that was leaked out) you can't help but to think anything is possible with this ownership/front office.
     
    donkeypunch and conquistador#11 like this.
  3. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    17,540
    Likes Received:
    27,103
    Im not sure. Bob was a great businessman. I think the franchise lost money on merch alone with that move. Then they bring in MORE money at the position with Cooks and Cobb afterwards - I could agree with the premise if that hadn't occurred. It was obviously a "culture" firing and had nothing to do with perceived output. Nuk was on another All Pro team this year with a new QB FWIW.

    Bob and Rick Smith were able to find a 2nd and a 3rd rounder for Duane when everyone knew the relationship was broken AND Duane was rounding back into form after injuries. Since he's been gone its been one bad business move after the next starting with the guys selected with those picks .. Martinas Rankin and Lonnie Johnson.

    What we received for DeAndre Hopkins was highway robbery - and all for what? Ego.

    Someone needs to know what they are doing, and that used to be Bob even if he was a hard - headed borderline racist - he knew business. Now its .... Easterby?
     
    UTSA2step and RasaqBoi like this.
  4. gucci888

    gucci888 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,073
    Likes Received:
    6,318
    Because for Cal, it wasn't about saving Easterby's job. All Easterby needed to do was convince Cal that Caserio was the "right guy" for the 2nd time knowing his buddy isn't going to push to fire him. Like you said, Cal is a schmuck. Look at all the things he's been talked into:

    1. Firing his GM less than 2 years into his deal to go for Caserio.
    2. Going with a GM by committee which included one of the very guys that f*cked up the Caserio hiring.
    3. Firing the only guy on the committee with real contract experience.
    4. Hiring BoB as the permanent GM and letting him the roster into the ground.
    5. Naming Easterby interim GM after not only getting tampering charges filed on the franchise, but who openly admitted he was involved in all of the trades/contracts that came since.

    The biggest threat to Easterby wasn't a GM that would come in and fire him on the spot. Cal was never going to relinquish that power. The biggest threat was an "outsider" getting into Cal's ear like Easterby has done.
     
    #144 gucci888, Jan 11, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2021
    Kim, UTSA2step, sammy and 3 others like this.
  5. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,403
    Likes Received:
    15,834
    The goal (from Cal's perspective) wasn't to save Jack, though. The argument would be this:

    Cal was going to get a GM and let him do what he wants.
    Search firm told him to go with Khan.
    He was ready to do that.
    Jack is trying to save his own job and convinces Cal to go with Caserio instead, knowing Caserio wouldn't fire him.

    From Cal's perspective, it's just someone he trusts telling him to go with another guy that Cal used to like instead of the new guy the search firm was recommending. That it saved Jack's job is incidental to the decision from Cal's perspective.
     
  6. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,674
    Likes Received:
    39,252
    It's weird to believe that Cal would hire a GM solely based on the recommendation of Easterby but at the same time Easterby had to be afraid that he would get fired by another GM. Like it's being painted as if Easterby is a cult leader with control over Cal but somehow Cal couldn't stop a GM from firing Jack?
     
    Rudyc281 likes this.
  7. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,403
    Likes Received:
    15,834
    I think gucci's explanation there makes the most sense - it's not just strictly about being fired or not. It's as much about how much power and influence Jack has going forward.
     
    itzIce likes this.
  8. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    10,842
    Likes Received:
    11,778
    Nope, it sounds just like what it is, a clusterf*ck of a franchise run by idiots for the last 20 years, who just had a chance to reset the losing culture and instead went for more of the same while now that it's become public they try to pacify their QB.
     
    UTSA2step and steddinotayto like this.
  9. itzIce

    itzIce Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2003
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    157
    This.
     
  10. BigM

    BigM Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2001
    Messages:
    17,994
    Likes Received:
    13,171

    Not necessarily any more weird than Easterby retaining his job while O’Brien loses his. That never made any sense. Cal needed to remove both but let his personal relationship with Jack get in the way.
     
    raining threes likes this.
  11. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,667
    Likes Received:
    8,312
    He makes Cal money

    And we know how much Cal loves his money.
     
  12. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,667
    Likes Received:
    8,312
    Except Cal has wanted to hire Caserio the last 3 offseasons.

    I haven't heard the part about Rootes but I wouldn't find this hard to believe.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    This is some of the weirdest stuff I've ever seen in sports
     
  14. gucci888

    gucci888 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,073
    Likes Received:
    6,318
    He didn't last year knowing Caserio's contract was set to expire after the NFL draft. Also the extension he signed in February did not have the so-called "Caserio clause" so he really could have gone after him at any point during the offseason. Instead, he "moved on" like he said he would and promoted BoB.
     
  15. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,667
    Likes Received:
    8,312
    They started going after Caserio starting 15 months ago according to Pancakes on 610 this morning.
     
  16. gucci888

    gucci888 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,073
    Likes Received:
    6,318
    I heard this and he said they went after Caserio when they let Rick Smith go, which was 15 months before Easterby arrived.
     
    raining threes and Rudyc281 like this.
  17. STR8Thugg

    STR8Thugg STR8Thugg Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    5,900
    Likes Received:
    5,597
    Yeah Rootes is furious.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    85,469
    Likes Received:
    83,727
    Then why all of the bullsh!t they've been twiddling dick around with? Why Search Firms, why have an "advisory board", why tell DW he's part of it? Why, dammit, why? LOL. And the one guy in the org that the entire League seems to dislike, bordering on hate, is still employed in the front office.

    Caserio may be an amazing GM, he seems to be very well thought of, but the way they went about this is just so typically, laughably, incompetently, Texans. Thanks, Cal.
     
  19. gucci888

    gucci888 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,073
    Likes Received:
    6,318
    This is why the narrative that Caserio was the guy all along is bs. We forget that Cal did exactly what he said he would do (i.e. interview Korn Ferry recommendations, advisory committee, discuss with DW4, etc...). That is until he jumped on a plane with Easterby, who we were told was not going to be part of the GM search process, to pick up Caserio and all but announce him that same night. And that is exactly why we have a pissed of Andre who probably thought his time was completely wasted, a pissed of DW4 who essentially wasn't part of the process when Cal just went with whoever he wanted, and a pissed off Roots who seemingly replaced by Easterby in a pursuit for Caserio.

    So either Easterby snaked his way in last minute as is being reported or Cal orchestrated a completely fake GM search duping his Team President and Star QB among others.
     
    Kim and conquistador#11 like this.
  20. eliefor3

    eliefor3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2019
    Messages:
    3,240
    Likes Received:
    4,570
    Genuinely asking would dw3 been "part of the process" had they gone with khan? I am thinking it's more of "lets keep it the patriots way" that annoys dw3 not that he wasn't part of the process.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now