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Amazon no longer hosts Parler

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  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Boom goes the dynamite: All user info, including DL, SSN and all posts



     
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  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    A rare, behind the scenes look at how the 'magic' happens with Parler:

     
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    Pending law suits on the way ...

    Just hate to see this happen.
     
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    The head of the police union in Minneapolis has curiously resigned (effective immediately). This guy is the clown that has basically prevented any reform of the Minneapolis Police Department (both before the George Floyd incident and after).

    I'm going to go ahead and guess that the Parler like just might be related.
     
  6. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    More than likely he was involved in the attempted Coup, and it's going to come out, either by the Parler leaks or other sources, like their airtight internal comms.
     
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    Bare metal means as opposed to cloud/virtual ... as in physical servers/racks that you can touch. So, non-cloud co-lo or on-prem

    That also means to me Parler is not really that big ... and also means not reliant on distributed architecture much at all. They had 8 million users before a recent surge, up to 10 million now. That's just not that big for a twitter app wrt infrastructure needs.

    Speculation: it's unlikely they require complex distributed system work. I think their DB is likely easily tranferable, and they can return to live to build out load-balancing/etc on the fly. It's an availability vs latency decision now, and availability wins in short term.​

    @calcium -- check this out, versus that list we compiled ... you're right, they wrote none of those services inhouse

    https://cloudcomputing-news.net/new...-cut-ties-with-parler-after-us-capitol-riots/
    • Push Notifications -- they weren't reliant upon Amazon SNS, but rather Twilio
      Twilio banned them...haha not a show-stopper though. they could just turn off the feature for now
    • Authentication -- they didn't use Amazon Cognito, but rather Okta
      Okta banned them
    • fwiw: Zendesk also terminated their license ... but that's for the ticket tracking
     
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    Maybe MAGA can organize their riots using Pornhub comments?
     
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    Agreed. They only hosted with AWS because it was a convenient solution for hosting but they weren't trying to optimize anything to take advantage of true distributed computing. I think they were just using standard MS SQL Server which could be migrated and hosted anywhere. I dont think they actually did anything that specifically was tied to AWS.

    Hence my fear that they're going to find a Russian or Chinese company to host them.
     
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    Asl these people if there is a service fee for using Parler. Is there a subscription fee? They have a CEO. They have investors.That means they want to generate profit. They aren't handing out fre services. They are making money somehow.

    This is how dumb the typical Parler user is.
     
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    FWIW, I work on IT contracts for a living, and most of those vendor names are folks I've interacted with personally before... a lot of them in the past year.

    Though it's certainly possible, I'm not particularly convinced Parler set out to be a right-wing social platform. Rather, I think they cobbled together a platform and "ran" it by cutting out every cost they conceivably could, including basic moderation, and then tried to come up with a sales pitch that made what they lacked seem intentional.

    Here's a comparison that leaped to my mind: however many years ago, Apple releases the iPod Shuffle, and instead of saying they don't have a screen to make it cheaper, they market it with the "life is random" slogan, attempting to actually glorify the idea of not having a screen, which is fairly objectively not a good thing. But hey, way cheaper to make and to buy. Pretty successful for them.
    Parler comes along, and instead of saying they do almost no moderation because they don't feel like paying for it, they instead make lots of hay about well we're protecting your freedom of speech by practically never removing anything, so actually it's a value-add!

    In both cases, kind of diabolically brilliant and also successful, at least for a time. The difference is that lacking a screen on a music player can't result in legal liability, while allowing hate speech and coordination of attacks on the government definitely can.
     
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    Interesting thought. The connections to Russia that have been brought up do make me suspicious about the motive, however.
     
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    It was set up by The Mercers, they absolutely meant it to be a right wing platform. They wanted to mine the data of likely right wing voters so they could target them to influence voting and then mine their contacts for other possible like minded targets. It's Cambridge Analytica, that's what they do. And it's a large part of why Trump was elected and a large part about the deliberate disinformation campaign to spread his lies and talking points.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica
     
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    Yeah, like I said, it's possible. I just tend to shy away from saying "conspiracy" when "stupidity" will do as a cause, since I think stupidity is a far more common phenomenon. :D
     
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    So it's funny how reliant Trumpers are to Facebook for planning their plans to make their plans elsewhere.

    This morning they are all over facebook talking about how NOW they are all moving to an app called Telegram. Apparently NOW they'll have a place to safely plan insurrections, and hate rallies.

    I'm sure the FBI has no idea they are now organizing on Telegram.... none.
     
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    Seems a billionaire fascist is using it as a tool to convince the rubes to become Brownshirts. Making money does not seems to be the primary factor.
     
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    Bezos is a leader not a follower
    Like 99ers
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    The Emperor has the death star.

    I told all of you, especially the dumb art history dropouts
    AWS rules the internet

    Don't mess with Bezos
    Don't mess with Elon

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