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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 18, 2020.

  1. Snake Diggit

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    That is a good comparison but it actually makes the opposite of your point. Davis and Luck were stars in their league from the first game after they were drafted, and each was already in the physical prime of their lives. Correa was 17 and wouldn't even play in his league until 3 seasons after he was drafted. Baseball players have longer careers and healthier lives post-career than athletes in the other major sports. Basketball really doesn't belong in the conversation because the top players come from a very very unique sample set of athletes (if you're not 6'5", the NBA is extremely unlikely to be a viable choice regardless of how athletic you are). Correa's lifetime earnings are likely to be triple what Luck made.

    Choosing between the NFL and MLB is only meaningful for an extremely small number of athletes. Those that choose the NFL are taking more guaranteed money over a shorter period of time in a more popular yet more dangerous sport. Those that choose MLB are taking the higher potential career earnings in a sport with much less physical risk but less guaranteed money. In reality for those few who have a choice, it boils down to which sport they enjoy more and/or are better at.
     
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  2. Castor27

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    I agree but the issue also has to take into consideration of what I posted earlier. If you are a HS student and an elite baseball and football talent, baseball is absolutely the choice you are going to make if presented with draft possibilities. Obviously you are not getting NFL drafted out of high school so if an MLB team comes calling you are most likely choosing that route. However, multi-sport athletes that aren't drafted are generally going to choose football for the reasons I said before. In college you are going to get more in scholarship monies from football and kids that are in need financially are going the football route. Sure you could do both, but it is rarely done, because it is very difficult to devote the required practice and training time to both sports. This is more of an indictment on the NCAA than it is on MLB. Football brings in more money so it is going to pay out more money. I get that, and it won't change until an outside source brings pressure or funding for baseball programs. This leads back to the original issue of baseball losing talent to other sports. Unless you are an elite high school baseball talent, you are most likely going to choose football in college even though baseball is more likely to be financially better long term.
     
  3. Nook

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    This is a very good point and something MLB has done nothing to address.
     
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  4. Joe Joe

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    If minor leaguers were paid appropriately, I would prefer the MLB system of paying players over relying on colleges. Under current system, I expect college football players are paid more on average.
     
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  6. Snake Diggit

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    Looking at MLBTR’s DBacks outlook, it is really hard to see how they can compete in the NL West with how good the Dodgers and Padres will be. They already sold off Starling Marte, I wonder if they will listen on their other veterans. I think Ketel Marte and Kole Calhoun would both be good fits for Houstons outfield hole. Calhouns contract is probably market value, while Marte probably has some surplus. But Houston should be able to take on both contracts and get them without giving up their top prospects. A hypothetical:

    Astros get:
    CF Ketel Marte
    RF Kole Calhoun

    Diamondbacks get:
    RHP Bryan Abreu
    RHP Jojanse Torres

    I also would be interested in David Peralta (although I think he’s less likely to be available), and possibly even MadBum if Arizona were desperate to get rid of him and were willing to pay down a lot of his contract.
     
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    Yes on Marte, Calhoun, and/or Peralta.

    Nope on Bumgarner....
    Owed 79 million the next 4 seasons. They would have to eat nearly half to get me remotely interested. I'd rather sign Odorizzi, Tanaka, Paxton, Quintana, Richards, or Rodon and save the $$$$.
     
  8. Hank McDowell

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    Don’t see much downside on the Stanek deal. If he’s healthy, he could definitely help.
     
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    Stanek was an absolute unit in college at Arkansas - saw him pitch multiple times his junior year. Unhittable. Has done virtually nothing as a pro -- a total of 2 wins in 5 seasons. Hopefully there's something there.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    By 5 seasons, I think you mean 4, in which one was a cup of coffee and another he was recovering from injury. 1.8 wins in the year and half he was healthy not counting his cup of coffee ain't bad for a reliever/opener. Question is more whether he's healthy.
     
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  11. Nick

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    Judging pitchers and relievers by wins?

    jeriome Roberson rip...
     
  12. Snake Diggit

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    Nats sign Schwarber. 1 year deal. Would have really liked him in Houston. Oh well.
     
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    If Brantley is off the table it might have made sense. Otherwise that's too many left fielders.
     
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    $10M is a good deal for Nats. I thought his defense would play up in MMP.
     
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    Completely mistook his post to mean wins above replacement.
     
  17. Mr.Pringles

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    Brantley is option #1.
     
  18. Joe Joe

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    Definitely if Luhnow was GM. I keep thinking Click wants someone young that they can get through signed through Bregman's contract (or as close as possible) with an arm that can play RF preferably as option 1. I think Click wants the Astros to be a deep team again. I'd see getting a LF on a short contract as option 2 for Click.
     
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    I respectfully disagree. I was hoping for Schwarber, but $10m (with no team option for a second year) is too rich for my blood.
     
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    Report: Astros keeping tabs on Hand during aggressive reliever pursuit

    Houston has been the most aggressive team in chasing high-leverage relievers this winter, sources told Murray.

    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2087669
     
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