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Georgia senate runoff Jan. 5, vote vote vote

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by what, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. DreamShook

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    all of a sudden punk ass Joe "Im a democrat, I promise" Manchin has a lot of power.
     
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    Warnock has been called...now just waiting on Ossoff

    Let’s goooo!!!!
     
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  4. Major

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    ... except the Filibuster, which Manchin has already said he won't vote to remove.

    Confirmations of judges and cabinet members would become a lot easier. And Dems can force votes on all sorts of stuff (like stimulus). But progressive policies are still DOA due to filibuster. They probably need 53-55 seats to have any chance to eliminate that.
     
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    Biden himself will probably veto anything good that comes along anyway. Assuming Pelosi let's anything even get to the house floor.
     
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    Sure, if we're going to spend, spend big on tangible things rather than kickbacks that get sent to overseas banks accounts. Beats having libtardian approved toll roads when we can build it straight up (then privatize if when municipalities are flatout broke)

    That doesn't mean Turtle and fake ass Paul Ryan rubes will parade the debt around and use "if I ran the guvmint leik muh house" analogies nonstop during the next campaign trial.

    It's a shitty trap that still works.
     
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    Republicans suck. This is what you get.
     
  10. DreamShook

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    Dems love to not use their power, but I dont think people are having it this time.
     
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    You all realize Pelosi is the that pushing Climate Change bills back in the early Obama years, even though they were DOA in the Senate, right? She was always considered extremely liberal and one of the caucuses true progressives until Bernie Sanders came along and somehow his supporters decided she's the enemy because she wasn't AOC.
     
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    You guys are acting like Manchin is a Republican, he most certainly isn't. He still votes with Democrats on most things. Hell he was the guy who who wrote the bills on universal background checks. He's voted with caucus on most things and ultimately he had to vote the other way to protect himself. He represents freaking West Virginia, what's he supposed to do?

    No Manchin won't support Medicare for All or mass cancellation of student debt but that would never pass with a bare 50 vote majority. The filibuster is still here so you'll get one reconciliation bill a year. The Democrats only have a majority because Manchin managed to win in a Trump +40 state so stop blaming him for having a different opinion every now and then. He's the reason why you have 50 seats. All the other red state Democrats lost except Manchin and Tester (and Tester is in a state much more friendly to Democrats).
     
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    tremendous black voter turnout has carried Georgia for the Dems in this Senate race
     
  15. DreamShook

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    Pelosi back in the dark ages also pushed for universal health care. Pelosi has been using those old ass clips of her talking about this common sense stuff for ages to trick people into thinking she is something she is def not.

    what ever she was pushing then she is not pushing now. its now a power grab.
     
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    As soon as the $2000 got blocked I thought Georgia would both go Dem. I originally thought it would be split. Biden will be able to do some stuff but there will be a lot of compromise with such a slim margin. We did a tax conference hosted by PWC a few weeks ago and the prevailing thought from the experts is that even with both seats going Dem, any tax changes would be pretty small and they’d take probably a year to get passed.

    The other prevailing thought was democrats will come to the table to get some stuff done with republicans because there is a real fear they get trounced in the House in 2022 by democrats themselves
     
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    The TDP chairman is from the RGV. But Dems have zero infrastructure in the RGV. There's no organization and voters relate more closely to local candidates rather than the Democratic Party as a whole. it just so happens that most local candidates run as Democrats so Dems sweep all of the local races but there's little loyalty to the Democrats.

    The TDP needs to build an organization in the South. Texas as a whole has woeful organizing infrastructure compared to Georgia but the RGV is especially bad.
     
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