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Rockets sign Sterling Brown

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Nov 22, 2020.

  1. ElPigto

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    House seems to have lapses at the worst possible times. I wish I could give him a fourth chance, but I'm over him.
     
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  2. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Well everyone has a right to thier opinon, so it's okay to have different views on things. I can definitely understand that perspective.

    But for example before the incident, House had off games like any other role player, but had some very good games in the OKC series, which was a tight one under pressure for the team.

    I look at both the positive and negative of a player, it's good to hold them accountable very true, but I also think it's fair to give them credit when they have performed well in the past and keep that in consideration.

    Here was House in the OKC series games:

    House had 19 pts 9 rebs 3 ast with 64% TS in game two.
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202008200HOU.html

    15pts 10 rebs on 63% TS in game three
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202008220OKC.html

    21 pts 6 rebs on 68% true shooting in game four
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202008240OKC.html

    He had a bad game five and seven, and a solid game one and six.

    For a role player he stepped up in the OKC series before the incident which really disrupted him after his two games with the health issues in the LA series, but he did very good things before that in the playoffs.

    I think he has value, is capable of playing well like he did last game and we could use the wing depth imo.
     
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  3. Bo6

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    great signing
     
  4. pippendagimp

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    in game 3 he missed a FT at the end that would have won the game. we likely sweep okc if he just makes that FT instead of getting tied up 2-2
     
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  5. ElPigto

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    He's definitely has had good games for us, but man he has way too many mental lapses during critical points of the game, especially on the defensive end. That's what I'm annoyed about.

    I'd expect House to not be lagging in that department. I understand he is a role player and I understand that he won't always be on offensively, that's certainly acceptable, but I do expect him to be at least fully versed in our defense and not have so many mental lapses in that area. He is an athletic guy that may not have a long wingspan, but he at least does have good lateral quickness and height and it is highly disappointing that he is not a very good defender at this point of his career. If he could give us what Tate is giving us, which is consistent effort and very good defense, I would not be as critical of him.

    Defensive IQ is incredibly important when you aren't expected to be lighting up the scoreboard night in and night out. I'm not asking for perfection, after all, even the best defenders **** up and great offense will always beat good defense, but he is lacking in that particular area and it is not acceptable. He isn't McLemore, a specialist that can come in and light it up and suck defensively (these kind of players will always have erratic playing time and may not play at all during the playoffs), instead he is an incredibly important part of the rotation.
     
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  6. OkayAyeReloaded

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    You make a point and he should be accountable for that I agree, but to be fair he also should get credit for the contributions he made along the way to help ultimately win the series too imo.

    I forget who said it, but stars are stars because they consistently perform like stars. Role players can perform like stars at times but are inconsistent, which is why expectations and contracts are smaller. I personally don't put the entire series outcome on just a role player like House.

    If a series comes down to a missed free throw from a role player, the team likely did plenty of other things wrong to put themselves in that position imo.

    But again we can agree to disagree here, I can understand.
     
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  7. pippendagimp

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    i've been a house supporter in the past, especially the season tilman refused to pay him and he had to sit out a ton of games. but my issue is he has not really improved since then. a guy like him should be ecstatic about getting starter minutes alongside wilt harden. but he is constantly making mental blunders, missing defensive assignments, etc

    so it all comes down to us just desperately needing to upgrade that position if we want to be a real contender and have any chance of retaining harden now
     
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    I'm definitely for having the best team to win, if someone else proves to be better over time at that position then give it to the player who earns it with consistent performance, I agree.

    But I also look at habits and trends long term, if a player has a bad game, slump or makes a mistake I don't throw away all the good things they did in the past too.

    For example I remember when people wanted Rivers to play over Gordon because Austin had some good games and Gordon was playing bad or injured, I knew both had real flaws to be sure, but Gordon had stepped up in the playoffs in the past and was the better overall player.

    Sure enough, Austin disappeared in the playoffs and Gordon while he had flaws, was much better.

    If Tate, Nwaba or House play the best over the long term and help the team win now and in the playoffs you play the guy who earned it with consistent performance.

    All these guys have weaknesses and House has proven he can have good games in the playoffs before injuries or the incident. But yes, we'll definitely see who plays better consistently with more games over time.
     
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  9. D-rock

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    Noel can defend 1-5 but you are correct, he is not a great post defender and he cannot space the floor.

    Rockets have evolved beyond his skillset.
     
  10. D-rock

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    I guess you've forgotten our Rockets legends.

    Vernon Maxwell
    Robert Horry
    Sam Cassell
    Mario Elie

    All role players who helped WIN critical games instead of helping us LOSE games.

    House is a selfish b**** of a screw up.
     
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    Yeah, should of included BMac and Martin. So it would be House, Mac, Martin plus Wiz 1st for Bagley who I think would play much much better with James.
     
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    He isn't washed. He's only been in the league for a couple of years. He hasn't improved anything, but he's still versatile and worth a look in my opinion and would improve playing with James.

    I think Bagley, Noel, Nance, Maker would all make sense.
     
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    That we couldn't get a 2nd for Sterling Brown from a contender was the biggest surprise to me.
     

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