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Can Steph carry his own team thread.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jiggyfly, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    What does off court stuff have to do with on court stuff? Lakers let Lebron sign everyone to his agency you think they're both hapoy or unhappy? Lebron and AD also called off shoot arounds last season and dictated practice scheds. It isnt anything crazy. Hell GSW let Curry off the entire season with a "broken hand". Bruh I snapped my arm in grade school it was fine in 4 mos get outta here with 1 yr rehab for a hand injury. You think GSW wasnt giving Curry special treatment by not making him embarrassed with getting pwned playing with a crap team? In your dreams.

    Who says Houston didnt have plan before they got Harden? It just didnt work out cuz Dwight isnt as good as Klay, Draymond and KD combined. What kind of plan hinges on the 2nd best player on the planet being a beta b**** and signing with the team that broke the NBA regular season record at a discount? Alpha ability with Beta mentality flakes like KD are once a generation. Dray even said it best they didnt even need him. So GSW didnt plan for KD cuz they didnt even need him, he was a pie falling from the sky more than anything else. You can see it how they used him, abused him and then threw him away.

    No system will work if you dont have enough talent. Thanks for confirming why Harden hasnt achieved anything in Houston. Meanwhile any system will work if you have enough talent, including having a weak ankled glorified spot up shooter like Curry who apoarently cant even get separation from average defenders in the NBA.

    Lets be real here if any other super star is having this kind of anemic start theyd get murdered. Irving, Lebron, KD, Giannis...everyone will talk about him as exposed. Luca doncic has haters all up his grill and he is averaging 24 7 6 as a 21 yr old. But because this is Curry suddenly he has nothing left to prove, its all his teammates fault blah blah blah. Gimme a break man. When you dont have a stscked a deck you see who are the real super stars and who arent.
     
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  2. daywalker02

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    It's a very delicate situation.

    Let's just say the Warriors did well with their model of managment and playing style, no need to play the 'What If' game with Harden or any other superstar.

    What I will say is, they didn't get a young superstar sooner and they banked too much on Durant staying.

    Should have traded Durant and avoided him creating a big team with the Nets.

    I know it's easier said than done.
     
  3. roslolian

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    They traded Durant they got a max player for him in return.

    KD did more for GSW than Curry ever did. GSW got KD for free (actually got a bargain cuz they were able to trade assets like Bogut to create cap for him), he brought them 2 rings and a finals appearance while canceling out Lebron's greatness, then when he left he gave them another max player in Russ.

    GSW should have erected a statue in KDs honor for everythi g he did for that franchise. If they had KD on the team now instead of weak ankle Curry you think they'd be 2-3 with the same cast? LOL KD sure as hell wont be shooting 30% from despite being the GOAT shooter.

    GSW should have realized who is the real superstar and traded Draymond when he started **** with KD. If they showed KD he is their man he would have stayed 100% guaranteed.
     
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  4. Reeko

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    Steph can’t even be competitive against a team like Portland?

    How come the GOAT shooter’s efficiency is looking so ordinary to start the season? How come he’s not putting the team on his back and averaging 35 like Harden would be doing? It’s been said that many players can do what Harden does and put up his averages, just give them the usage and shot attempts. Well then, do it Steph...

    Steve Kerr sure has been quiet this season...I guess running your mouth doesn’t work when your team is getting waxed on a consistent basis
     
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    Let's see this year and last year.
    DLo was a bandaid.

    Fast forward to Wiggins who is another mediocre player.

    Oubre is useless without a shot.

    They do not seem to get going.
     
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    I don’t have one bit of sympathy or pity for this man given the history we’ve had with the warriors (the shoulder shimmying will never leave my brain).

    Steph without Klay, Iggy, Durant and draymond is the Steph the rockets would dominate during the Mark Jackson days.

    the warriors run has officially run its course! it just sucks they prevented the rockets from winning at least one chip.

    break it up!

    (oh and to think that bum Kent Bazemore turned Houston down a 4th time to go there lol. Serves you right, enjoy NBA purgatory for the foreseeable future.

    ....vent complete.
     
  7. Fefo

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    Dude, you are so full of hatred that you keep writting a bunch of lies. Curry broke his hand on january, and before he could come back, the pandemic happened and the season got cancelled. After that, GS wasnt even in the bubble.
    You just want to build a narrative thats not even true.
    Haters can say wathever they want about Curry, but he won 3 championsips , was on 4 nba finals ( 2 without durant, and the one they lost, he can thank Draymond for hitting Lebron on the nuts), and he is 2 time mvp . Nobody wins without a great team around them, you can ask Lebron , that he needed to join Dwade and Bosh to get his first one.
    The nba is hard and what the warriors did on a loaded west its quite impressive, especially before Durant joined, coz after that it was almost unfair.
    The replace Harden with Curry and they win more championships, its just speculative and based on fantasy. The facts are that Harden has never won, the only time he was on the finals he really sucked, and unless he wins one before he retires , the narrative of his career will continue to be that he shrinks on big moments.
     
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    Just waiting till Curry demands a trade. The perfect player for Curry is what we got this season. Curry's window is smaller than Harden.
     
  9. Nook

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    Steph Curry can’t even carry his own team... he just cannot shoulder the load and it is painfully obvious to the point it is awkward to watch.
     
  10. Nook

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    LOL even NBA players are stating the obvious.

    This doesn’t even address the fact that Steph Curry is a horrendous defender and has been his entire career. Not being surrounded by great players has amplified his weaknesses... Curry has lived a charmed life. Put him on most teams and he would still have a handful of all star game appearances but he would just be “Steve Curry”, a great shooter and ball handler that cannot handle a huge load and consistently gets fried on the defensive end of the floor.
     
  11. Nook

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    Steph Curry broke his hand in October. He broke it in a game the Warriors were blown out by the Suns. It isn’t a surprise he broke it early in the season as he is physically frail and cannot handle the type of physical attention he was getting without elite teammates. If I remember right he was struggling pretty bad on the court and really wasn’t helping his team win.
     
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    You'd need an awful lot of context to spin a 30% 3pt percentage (on high volume attempts) as anything other than "bad".

    Some sports fans are unable to accept reality.
     
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    Absolutely. Morey built a team specifically to complement Harden. That's why his regular season stats are so gaudy. There's no reason to think Morey wouldn't do the same for Curry.

    Plus, Curry wouldn't feud with every star teammate.
     
  14. saleem

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    The overrated Stephen Curry lost by a whopping 25 points to Portland. Harden was without Wall, Eric, Cousins and Ben Mac. Poor defense by House led to a 2 points loss on the last possession.
    ESPN will never recognize the truth.
     
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    Before spewing such ignorance, why don't you watch the replay?
     
  16. csc177

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    He’s been lucky and in a very fortunate situation throughout his career. No one will care about these down years or the fact that he can’t carry a team years from now unfortunately- his legacy is stamped with MVPs and 3 rings.
     
  17. Patience

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    Harden has led his teams to winning seasons and playoffs every year, no matter which teammates he has been surrounded with. While Morey has built a couple of teams that complemented Harden well, he has also led teams into the playoffs that consisted of marginal NBA players like Terrence Jones, Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, and Francisco Garcia playing heavy minutes. The cast of teammates around Harden has changed nearly every year, yet his performance, team record, and statistics have been remarkably consistent.
     
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    The 2 only years where the supporting cast didn't complement Harden well were his first year with us and last year. And we all know Harden's role in last year's roster construction.

    That being said, Harden has continuously proven himself to be a regular season monster.
     
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    if he keeps shooting like this, and brings his career averages back down to reality. Then it wont as good, remmeber he has zero finals mvps, so to many people 20 years from now he was just another on a stacked team like cousy back then on those celtics teams with bill russell and hondo

    Harden is the guy years from now who will probably jump 10 spots into the top 15-20 range when people look at the numbers 20 years from now
     
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  20. francis 4 prez

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    curry shot 28% on 3's on really high volume in our 2019 series.
     
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