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Trump Wants to Give $2000 Instead of $600

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Dec 24, 2020.

  1. SuraGotMadHops

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    In your mind there are no home grown quality people in Texas that are qualified to have well to-do jobs?? Do you know how many Texas natives, that went to public schools and universities in Texas, have had great careers in Texas?? That have started companies, employ lots of people, and re-invest in the State.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Yea but Texas ain't producing Oracles, Googles, etc... There's something special about California's private and public sector that makes it the innovation capital of the world.

    Texas needs to invest more in higher education in order to stop paying companies to come here.
     
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  4. Dubious

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    This just in.... Trump just wants to f*** McConnell and the party that did not go to the pyre with him.. If he gave a flying frick about McConnell or the Republican part he would not be helping elect Democrats in Georgia.

    His narcissisms only allows for undying loyalty or retribution.
     
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    I think Texas Higher education is pretty good. There are multiple high quality public universities in Texas.

    The issue with Texas is k-12 education quality and the uneven nature of the quality.
     
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    Why stop at $2000 let's give everyone $250,000 -- liberals... SMH.
     
  7. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    To be fair, massive inflation only hurts the rich :).

    Edit: To be more accurate, it hurts the rich who have more liquid assets like cash.
     
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  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Compared to CA it simply is not on the same level, k-12 is but not higher education.
     
  9. jiggyfly

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    SMDH.
     
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  11. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

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    Sadly many of the little Trumpsters just have their understandable anger that they are being fFed. They hate government as Reagan the patron saint of the government haters said: "I love my country it is my government that I fear". Taught to believe that government is bad they keep voting for people who do bad government which reinforces their ignorant beliefs. No $2,000 for the little guy Trumpsters and the other folks who need it most.
     
  12. glynch

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    Well for a while I thought the Dems were going to do a bit more than symbolic "resistance" against McConnell and the Repugs on the $2,000. Biden the low energy President Elect who has been a lifetime austerian, acted pained when asked if he supported the $2,000 and said simply "Yes" as he was leaving after one of his 5 minute appearances. The Dems will have to up their game if they are to effectively combat the hard ball tactics the Repugs routinely engage in.
    https://www.dailyposter.com/p/senate-democrats-motion-to-concede
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    The day began with Sen. Bernie Sanders following through on his promise to deny unanimous consent for the Senate to advance a $740 billion defense authorization bill, until Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell allows an up-or-down vote on legislation that would send $2,000 survival checks to individuals making less than $75,000 and couples making less than $150,000.

    Sanders’ move forced McConnell to ask the Senate to pass a formal motion to proceed on the defense bill, which would let Republicans move forward on the Pentagon priority without a vote on the $2,000 checks. The motion created the moment in which Democrats could have stood their ground and cornered the GOP leader.

    Instead, as Republicans saber rattled about the need to pass the defense bill, 41 Democrats obediently voted with McConnell, allowing him to move the defense bill forward without a vote on the checks. That included “yes” votes from Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and vice-president elect Kamala Harris, the lead sponsor on a bill to give Americans monthly $2,000 checks during the pandemic. One day before her vote to help McConnell, Harris had called on the Republican leader to hold a vote on her legislation.

    Only six members of the Senate Democratic Caucus mustered the courage to vote against McConnell’s maneuver — Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Chris Van Hollen, Jeff Merkley, Ed Markey and Ron Wyden. Democratic senators in fact provided the majority of the votes for the measure that lets the defense bill proceed without a vote on the $2,000 checks.

    It was called a motion to proceed, but it really was a motion demanding Democrats concede — and they instantly obliged.

    It Didn’t Have To Go This Way
    Had most Senate Democrats voted against that motion, they might have had a chance to deny McConnell and stall the process — after all, five Republicans also voted against the measure, including Missouri’s Josh Hawley, who has pushed the survival checks with Sanders.



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    Liberal Economists And Pundits Gave McConnell His Talking Points
    McConnell’s crusade to stop direct aid was abetted not only by Senate Democrats’ surrender, but also by media elites who loyally represent the party’s corporate wing and who began promoting canned talking points to undermine the direct aid.

    First came a barrage of attacks on the $2,000 checks initiative from Summers, a former hedge fund executive who as President Barack Obama’s national economic director stymied the push for more stimulus after the 2008 financial crisis.

    Then the New York Times’ Paul Krugman pretended the wildly popular initiative is “divisive” and said “the economics aren't very good.” Timesman Tom Friedman, who married into a real estate empire, called the idea “crazy” and fretted that checks might go to “people who don't need the help.” The minions of billionaire Michael Bloomberg joined in with a house editorial demanding Congress block the checks.

    In the end, millions of Americans struggling to survive will likely be left with just a one-time $600 check, as 80 U.S. Senators rubber stamp a bloated defense bill to show they support the troops — and then tell the poor to eat a roll call vote.
     
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    An example of conservative arguments. Wasn't their a study iirc that they have smaller brains?
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    such small brains
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    Big brane time.
     
  17. dachuda86

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    Most conservatives don't think govt is bad... this is a straw man I see too often with libertarians too. The general belief is that TOO MUCH govt is bad. And they are 100% right. And that is where the nuance begins. What IS too much govt. We could argue that for days.
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    That's a lie. Liar. Traitor.

    Reagan quotes.

    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. "

    "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem."
     
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  19. deb4rockets

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    One thing about Bernie, he doesn't hold back when calling out Republicans with their socialism BS. Giving to the rich is their mantra, but helping others is socialism. Greedy hypocrites. That's all they are.




    On Thursday, the Vermont senator called out McConnell's stimulus "hypocrisy" for providing tax breaks to millionaires such as Las Vegas Sands Corporation CEO Sheldon Adelson—while blocking federal payments to American adults struggling financially due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    "All of a sudden, Mitch McConnell is 'worried' about giving a $2,000 check to someone who 'doesn't need it,'" Sanders tweeted. "That's funny. He had no problem giving a $560 million tax break to Sheldon Adelson who is worth $34.3 billion. Total hypocrisy! Let the Senate vote on $2,000 now, Mitch!"

    https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-san...h-mcconnell-over-2000-stimulus-checks-1558313
     
  20. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Even if MM allowed the vote, there isn’t 60 votes for it.
     

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