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Woj: Rockets want to trade Harden "sooner rather than later"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Dec 18, 2020.

  1. HardenVolumeOne

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    i get your point, i guess all we can really do is speculate and wait till the deadline
     
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  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Pretty much jives with what CH44 said recently.
     
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    Preach
     
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    Without the back injury or concerns ppl would be preaching he’s the next Durant ( that’s how elite his skill is). He would have went number overall easily in the draft.

    Hoping the rockets can swoop in before this 22 year old”s career really takes off.
     
  5. Haymitch

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    Makes sense. BS did know about the Westbrook deal before anyone else, IIRC.
     
  6. J.R.

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    76ers Will Evaluate Existing Roster Before Deciding Whether To Pursue James Harden

    The Philadelphia 76ers were determined to enter the 20-21 season with their present roster in place to determine how Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons and their new acquisitions would play before assessing whether to pursue a trade for James Harden.

    Sources tell Sam Amick of The Athletic that "the results, chemistry, perceived ceiling and the like would all be factored in when it came to what might come next on the Harden front.

    The 76ers are widely believed to have the capacity to put together the most attractive trade package for Harden due to the presence of a young star in Simmons. Daryl Morey also may covet acquiring Harden more than any other executive in the league due to their history together with the Houston Rockets.

    Bucks Don't View James Harden As 'Cultural Fit For Their Group'

    The Milwaukee Bucks don't view James Harden "as a culture fit for their group" and have no plans to try to trade for him, sources tell Sam Amick of The Athletic.

    After trading for Jrue Holiday this offseason, the Bucks also likely lack the requisite trade pieces to acquire Harden unless they found a third team who desperately wants Holiday or Khris Middleton.

    Harden and Giannis Antetokounmpo have also appeared to have an icy relationship as they finished first and second in MVP voting in 2019.
     
  7. Htown's Finest

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    100%
     
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    He’s 22 - last year was his first full season, give it a chance before we put a ceiling on what he can be defensively.

    ....if there’s a deal out there that gives me a sliver of hope and excitement it’s the MPJ trade package, pairing him with Wood should really get folks excited about the young future post harden. Build around those two with the picks and trades.
     
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    I don't see it with MPJ, have not seen him do much off the dribble and he highly benefits from playing with Jokic and Murray.

    I am gonna start paying more attention him.
     
  10. Nook

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    I haven't seen his post, but he has a good handle of what is going on.

    In my opinion if the Rockets traded Harden and added Porter, he would immediately score 22-25 points a night.

    Porter isn't Harden and he will never do what Harden does..... but he would give the Rockets an elite scorer that can both create for himself and can score off ball, and can fit with pretty much any other pieces we add.

    I don't know how Porter will ultimately be defensively because of effort, but I do know the physical and decision making skills are there so he should be at least average.
     
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    I mean, literally the only players Boston has that constitute "assets" are Tatum, Brown, and Smart. And Smart is on a contract paying him $28m over this year and the next to be a rich-man's PatBev. I'm sure they'd love to keep him - but I don't think you hold up a trade for a top-3 player because you don't want to trade your 3rd best player.

    But you're probably right. Ainge is the kind of guy to overvalue assets - the kind that tries to trade you 3 WRs he just got off the waiver wire for your top RB in fantasy football. I think there are other GMs out there more eager to make an all-in move.
     
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    he does, but in theory he should also benefit from playing with Wall and Wood.

    Really, Curry is who he makes me think of. He’s not a guy that will carry your team like Harden. But with the right pieces around him, he could explode as an elite finisher.
     
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  13. Htown's Finest

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    Good because I don't want $hit the Bucks have to offer for Harden anyway and the 76ers can keep Ben Simmons trash ass.
     
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    wake me up when the Harden trade happens plz
     
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    He could explode?

    Maybe , maybe not.

    I am also worried about his attitude what happened last year in the playoffs leaves me worried about him being the 1st option and supposed franchise player.
     
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    Murray and Harden backcourt could be insane. Murray is more of a two guard masquerading as a point guard. He just doesn’t have the playmaking or the passing skills Harden has so with Harden there he can just concentrate on his strengths and that is shooting the basket and attacking the rim.
     
  18. Nook

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    He scored off the dribble 2-3 times last night, but he is certainly primarily a shooter at this point.

    Look at it like this....... he is getting 2-3 put back buckets a night off rebounds because of his athleticism and size..... he is stopping and beating his man off the dribble for 2-3 buckets a game.... then he is pulling up for threes a few times a game and coming off screens... when you add all that up, that is a lot of points........ the only real criticism I have of him is that he is not drawing fouls like he needs to yet.... but he basically didn't play basketball after high school for two years so I think that will improve some.

    Porter isn't a sure thing, he has back issues and he doesn't break down guys off the dribble like Harden or some others do...... but he has the pieces to become an elite player in this league.

    I will just say this, right now I would take Porter over the #3 pick in the NBA draft next year, and that is a loaded draft.
     
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  19. finsraider

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    Well he’s up to 20 points per game so far, hitting 70% of his 2s and 42% of his 3s. 88% from the free throw line.

    We don’t need him to be a first option. He’s very likely not a #1 on a championship team...but that’s ok. We need him and Wood to look like all-stars to a potential 3rd star that would sign with us.
     
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    I don't think you can be an elite player if you can't consistently beat guys off the dribble.

    An elite player to me is can you get a reasonable shot when everyone knows the ball is going to you or can you get somebody else a quality shot.

    How is he as a playmaker?
     
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