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Can Steph carry his own team thread.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jiggyfly, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. Reeko

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    Steph could never
     
  2. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    Rockets should think about keeping Harden.
     
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    Says the guy who is always bagging on Harden for any reason.

    Pot meet Kettle.

    Why are you moving the goalpost?
     
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    Because harden is ****ing over the team. Too bad you’re too deep down his Schlong to see that. You’re not a rockets fan, you’re a harden fan.
     
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  5. jiggyfly

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    You have been bagging on Harden way before this year.

    Has he been ****ing over the team the past 3 years?
     
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    I know it's been two games but how is this even still a debate?
     
  7. Icehouse

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    But it does make you mentioning titles in a comparison between those players pointless. They weren’t on teams that had a clear talent advantage, that got to face injured teams in every round. When Curry didn’t have that advantage he struggled, lost, and had to go recruit a better player.


    And Curry wouldn’t either on their teams, against the guys they lost MVPs to.
     
  8. wekko368

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    Incorrect. When talking about GOAT lists, MVPs and titles gets you a seat at the table. Once you're at the table, you can argue about injuries, supporting casts, etc...

    Curry is at the table. The other guys listed aren't. Why are you even arguing this? There's no way you can win.
     
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    "To whom much is given, much is required"

    you cant on one hand tell me he is a top 15 player ever, better than isiah, kobe, garnett, oscar and others.. when he aint do near the carrying those other guys did. Curry is a 2-time mvp first uninamous and all we are asking is that he not get blown out by 30 plus points.. is that too much to ask from a 2-time mvp

    curry is always treated with kid gloves by the media, and i think that's the real reason he is not liked by opposing nba players. imagine if lebron, harden durant, or giannis got blown out by 30 in back 2 back games. we would DESTROY them and rightfully so. Why does it seem like curry is exempt from this same criticism. Has nothing to do with being insecure, its just we all have eyes and can see that steph curry has been in a favorable situation for most if not all of his career, and now we want to see what he can do as a lead dog. Its put up or shut up. He already used the injury card last year and milked a wrist injury the entire season, nowhere to run now. Time to carry this team and least bring them to the playoffs
     
  10. wekko368

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    Isiah had Dumars, Rodman, and quality role players. Kobe's championship teams always had the best front court in the league as well as clutch role players. Garnett didn't win a title until he was teamed with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen.
     
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    im not asking curry to win a title with this roster, im just asking him to keep the warriors competitive in these games not get mudstomped like they have been. Anybody can lose, but these final scores with curry playing have not even close to competitive. Lets see how tonight's game goes.
     
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  12. wekko368

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    The Warriors won't be competitive this year, and frankly, no one should have that expectation. Curry's supporting cast is pretty bad, and he's almost 33 years old. Once the GSW have a big deficit, he'll get benched, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's no sense in putting unnecessary mileage on him.

    But I agree, losing tonight against Chicago would be pretty bad.
     
  13. HardenVolumeOne

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    did you see hardens supporting cast last night

    curry still has

    kevon looney( capela killer)
    draymond green( former defensive player of the year), although hes been hurt
    andrew wiggins( former number 1 overall pick and 19ppg scorer)
    kelly oubre( averaged 18 the past 2 seasons)
    james wiseman( top 2 pick and averaging 19/7/2 in his first 2 games)


    you telling me the singular loss of klay who was coming off a torn acl even before his recent achillies injury is resulting in these lopsided scores. Come on man, im gonna need a better excuse than that. Curry has more than enough to at least be a 7th or 8th seed in the west. Again this is the same player many people have placed above harden in player rankings for years. Now he gets excuses made when its time to put up or shut up why
     
  14. Icehouse

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    Curry has never been on any GOAT list. You are correct, you will never win trying to argue anyone about that.
     
  15. wekko368

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    Looney? Seriously? The supporting cast must be REALLY bad if you're bringing up Looney.

    Wiggins has always been an inefficient scorer, and he's taken that inefficiency to a whole new level. And as bad as Wiggins has been, Oubre has been worse. Also note that Wiggins are Oubre are poor complements to Curry.

    Wiseman looks good, and he has a ton of potential, but he's on a minutes restriction and still very raw.

    Right now, Christian Wood is significantly better than any of these guys.

    Singular loss of Klay? Come on. The Warriors have been depleted heavily since their last finals appearance.

    How can GSW be a 7th or 8th seed? Lakers, Clippers, Mavericks, Nuggets, Blazers, Pelicans, Rockets, Suns, and Jazz are clearly better.

    Then, you have the Spurs who are usually a fringe playoff contender and the Kings who have a lot of raw talent.
     
  16. wekko368

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    I know you wish that were true, but Curry should already be in the top 20 of the GOAT list. He's accomplished too much.
     
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    His teams have accomplished quite a bit. He is a sum of his teams parts. Never the bell of the ball
     
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  18. HardenVolumeOne

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    curry has less than 17,000 career points and is known as a scoring guard lol. thats close to 3,000 behind james harden and keep in mind harden started his first 3 years coming off the bench. Curry started from day 1
     
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  19. Mr. Space City

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    4 points off....
     
  20. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H
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    And still wrong.
     

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