What's the difference between Iggy's MVP & Kawhi's Spurs MVP? They both were gifted because they were forced to guard Lebron. And how great is that? Lebron LOSES a FInal and guys are getting Finals MVP's over their teams BEST players because they "held you down" to 30ppg! UNBELIEVABLE!
They actually did generate huge 4th quarters leads which gave their starters extra rest. Unsurprising you didn't know that. Capela has been far superior to Looney statistically, and signed a much bigger contract (5 years with $80m guaranteed; Looney is on a 3 year/$15m contract). And your only argument is a head to head matchup? Please, use some critical thinking. Empty stats on a garbage team with no pressure. Please, use some critical thinking. So you're punishing Ariza for starting slow after coming to the NBA straight from high school? Please, use some critical thinking. Sure, if you're starting a team from scratch, you'd take Oubre/Paschall over Ariza. But we're talking about building a team around an established star. At that point, you look at fit. Would you rather pair Harden with Oubre, Paschall, or prime Ariza? Please, use some critical thinking. That's exactly how it works. If a player gets decent stats on bad teams, you can't assume they'd do the same on good teams. You always have to take it with a grain of salt. For instance, to what extent did Paschall benefit from prolonged garbage time? To what extent did he benefit from a kind of green light that he wouldn't see on other teams? What a stupid argument. "Sure, the Nets are a far superior team compared to the Warriors, but there have been better teams in NBA history so the gap between the Warriors and Nets doesn't matter." And there's nothing wrong with losing by 30 when your guys suck and the opposing guys are on fire. The Nets shot almost 43% from the 3pt line. Please, use some critical thinking. Yet in the summer after the 2019 season, Looney signed a 3 year extension for $5m/year. Do you remember what Capela signed for? You realize that every time you bring up Looney and Paschall, people are rolling their eyes at you, right? Wrong again. It depends on the rest of the team. Oubre has poor court vision. He failed to pass to a wide open Curry several times last night. Curry/Oubre has a higher floor. Curry/Ariza has a higher ceiling. And 37% is still not close to 40%. Please, use some critical thinking. Here's the problem with your logic. You see the potential that Oubre has, and you're acting like the Warriors got blown out despite Oubre reaching his potential. Oubre was trash last night. He shot 3-14 from the field and 0-6 from the 3pt line. He and Wiggins were arguably the 2 worst Warrior players last night, and that's a big problem when they're the 2nd and 3rd best players on the team. And what about before Durant? Barnes and Iguodala attempted multiple 3's per game. Yeah, Curry shot poorly from the 3pt line, but he did attempt 2 heaves to end quarters. Curry clearly outplayed Wiseman. Wiseman didn't do anything until garbage time. It's pretty clear you didn't watch the game. Aldridge, Derozan, Ingram, and Zion are clearly better than Oubre/Wiggins, and laughable you think otherwise. Ball is arguable. The status quo for Draymond is "washed up". It's possible he regains his elite defense, but we have to judge him based on how bad he was last year. And how can Draymond Green be a top 10 playmaker when he was never the best playmaker on his team? Please, use some critical thinking. You must be a super fan to have such high expectations for a bad team. But then again, you keep going on and on about how good Looney and Paschall are.....geez....maybe you really are a super fan.
It's ridiculous to think that a Cavs team missing Irving/Love would always lose a series against a full strength Warriors team?
Kawhi was almost the leading scorer for the Spurs. Statistically, Kawhi was superior to both Parker and Duncan so he was the logical choice. Guarding Lebron was the icing on top. Curry averaged 10 ppg more than Iguodala. That's a huge gap. Has there ever been a worse FMVP snub?
The difference is if Steph choked in a big game, the rest of his team was good enough to win despite that, so that bad game is ignored and forgotten. Harden did not have that luxury. Yes, Steph's style compliments super teams better than Harden. If we're drafting all-star teams, I may pick Steph over Harden. But if you swap Harden/Steph teams, does anyone here really believe the Warriors are winning fewer rings than they did? I highly doubt it - and I think they actually probably have a better shot at beating CLE that one year they lost. On the other hand, how many games would a Steph-EG-Ryno-Capela team win? Are they even in the playoffs? So yes, he's overrated. IMO, Harden would absolutely carry a team consisting of Wiseman/Oubre/Wiggins/Paschall to the playoffs.
It's not that easy. I think ownership/general manager all have to align with the playing style of the Warriors. They are all basketball savvy, less egoistic, very altruistic beings.
Curry doesn't have to prove anything. He has 3 rings. Hell he won a ring before Draymond really took off and before KD arrived. Every time Curry's teams have had a high seed after a fantastic regular season, they have made the finals. Harden is the clear No. 1 in Houston and hasn't even gotten out of the conference despite amazing regular seasons
Rox at Clippers 2015 playoffs. Harden putting in his usual chokejob performance and got benched the entire 4th In an elimination game . His teammates stepped up and helped Houston overcome a 15 point 4th Q deficit. I can pull up numerous instances of Harden pulling a Casper over the past decade in the playoffs. Don't tell us Harden doesn't have help when there's way too many disappearing acts from him. If he can't get it done with All star talent next to him like Dwight, CP3 and Russ, then Harden the common denominator for his own failiures in Houston
Nobody thought Warriors have great ownership and management until they won. Winning silences everyone.
I'm really sick of Clippers 2015 being continuously brought up as if there was only one must win game instead of three and it's conveniently forgetten how Harden delivered in two of them. God forbid his team can be relied on to have his back on the other game.
Harden is marginally better on defense on a daily basis, Harden can carry his team to the playoffs but team offense is much more important in the playoffs. Steph is a significantly better shooter and can be effective off the ball. Both can score the ball and neither can carry their team to championship alone.
Harden may be more talented offensively but who gives a crap if you are a big douce bag, ahole, horrible team mate, doesn't show up on time, and basically can't play with anyone else?
Basketball is complicated....... I think Steph Curry is overrated due to the system and team he plays on, but he's still a top player when healthy.
He wasn't robbed. You seem to think scoring is everything. It's not. The Lakers/Magic series was a rout from jump. The GS series was dead-even until they gave Iggy more time on LeBron. He was the series changer, which is why he got the award.
