Rockets need to target Miami Heat scouting personel

A really well ran organization can identify talent that can fit the teams needs and also identify is the players are a good cultural fit.

They do the same thing when it comes to identifying assistant coaches for the GLeague and NBA benches.

 

LMAO! This post is a work of art!

Cheap #Tilman. We all suffer.

 

Battier adds legitimacy to the Rockets because he was a pro's pro as a player and he is widely regarded as an executive and before that as an analyst.

And Battier's experience heading Miami's excellent player development programs and overall basketball operations would only benefit Rockets new culture.

And then only way to lure Battier form Heat is to offer him a higher position.

Why do you care so much about hierarchy?

 

Great post, one that illustrates very well the yawning gulf between the ownership and organization of the Heat versus the Rockets. Good that you mentioned Alexander, who looks “good” now only because Fertitta is worse to an extreme. Les did the Rockets and the city of Houston no favors by selling the Rockets to Tilman. Far from it. We desperately need new ownership and will likely not get it unless it’s the only way Fertitta can avoid bankruptcy. What a depressing thought. Far from the first time I’ve thought that.

 

Cuz you dont even know what Battier did on the Heat but you wanna make him the pres of bball operations for no reason over Stone who has been doing a great job. What d hell does "legitimacy" even mean Elton Brand was a better player than Battier ever was is he more legit than Battier yes or no?

The OP was talking about scouting which the Heat are extremely great at, if you wanna have great scouting like the Heat you try to ge their scouts not Shane Battier whose work is in a different department from scouting.

Btw this is all theoretical no way anybody on the Heat leaves the org for Tillman FerCheapta.

 

Rockets did not have a problem scouting players.

They have a problem developing players.

Battier's expertise is in both player development AND basketball operations. The Heat are highly regarded in finding players but most importantly in DEVELOPING these players.

Guess who runs BOTH areas for the Heat?

What are you not understanding, seriously?

 

Only problem is Fertitta will never, ever be a hands-off owner of anything, that goes against everything he believes.

This was mentioned several years ago by a certain someone.

 

How do you know he runs both? Like I said based on the hierarchy there is President, president of bball operations and then VP of bball operations before him. He is mostly in charge of ANALYTICS. Its in his title VP of ANALYTICS and Player Devt.

Why the hell do I need to guess? His job is there in white and black "his job is DEVELOPMENT OF ANALYTICS to evaluate all players from college to current Heat players"
https://www.nba.com/heat/contact/directorybattierhtml

Guess who finds talent and more importantly DEVELOPS talent for the Heat? It sure aint Battier. What are you not understanding, seriously?

You are literally crediting everything the Heat does to Battier when you dont even know what he does on the Heat SMH. Rockets are lacking a lot of things but I doubt they need to pirate an ANALYTICS guy considering they are part of the innovators of ANALYTICS to begin with.

 

Here you go man. You want the dude in charge of bball operations, scouting and player devt for the Heat right? No need to guess I got you fam:

Bball Operations: Andy Elisburg
https://www.nba.com/heat/contact/directoryelisburghtml

Scouting: Chad Kammerer
https://www.nba.com/heat/contact/directorykammerer2html


Player Development: Anthony Carter
https://www.nba.com/heat/contact/directory-anthony-carter

See a corporation hires guys to do different things. Just because Shane Battier is the only person you recognize doesnt mean he does everything on the Miami Heat. It's a huge company with more than a dozen executives, these people are doing work even if you dont know they exist. Did you just pull Battier's job resp out of your ass? Lol you telling everyone to hire a guy when you dont even know what he does wtf. And then you ask me what dont I understand? Cmon man.

 

Dude, read your own link CAREFULLY.

His title:

Vice President, Basketball DEVELOPMENT and Analytics

His job description seems well suited to what we need:

"His current responsibilities involve the development of analytics to evaluate all talent, including college, free agents and current Miami players."

 

Exactly so where does bball operations fit into that? Where does player devt fit into that? Battier is a number cruncher. He develops formulas he gets nos and then he gives the GM reports based on his formula.

Why the hell do the Rockets need someone to develop analytics? They've been developing analytics for the last 10 years. All they did under Morey is develop analytics and now you think thats the first thing Rox need?

 

If Rockets are now targeting KJ Martin, Jerian Grant, Trey Mourning and Joshua Reaves then their ability to uncover talent is in question.

That starts with their analytics.

 

Ok so now the Rockets move on from a need of basketball operations and player development to analytics is that what you are trying to say? You were wrong when you told me the Heat was known for bball operations and player devt, what they really are known for is analytics and thats what the Rox should target first amirite?

Lemme guess if Shane Battier opens a barbershop you gonna tell me next the Rockets need a new hair manager.

 

I think your biggest gripe is that you dont want Rockets to improve the top of their basketball Operations team because you believe that Stone would be undermined.

Why do you care if Stone has a boss?

The only way to bring in the best talent is to give them a promotion, Battier is currently a VP with Heat, he will not come over for a lateral position with a worse organization.

And if you believe that Battier would ba quality hire and add more legitimacy to Rockets FO then we clearly have no common ground to even have a discussion.

Rafael Stone was Rockets GC for many years but he is not a known NBA guy that players, media and other teams FO's have universal regard.

Battier is that guy.

 

My gripe is you didnt even know what Battier did on the Heat how do you know he is that guy? You dont know if he did a great job or a poor job but you still insist he would be a great hire when the tasks you thought he was doing was being done by other people.

I dont care if Stone has a boss I'm questioning if Battier deserves to be that boss since I dont know what he was doing on the Heat. You skip over the basic question "does he deserve to be Stone's boss?" and immediately assume he would be a great hire with no basis or proof other than you saw Battier play back in the day.

 

Forget his play as the ultimate glue guy, just listen to Shane Battier speak.

Battier is not just analytical, not just articulate, moreso he is progressive and as a former champion at every level of basketball (HS, college, NBA) he brings gravitas to a FA negotiation, player interaction or extension offer that a non-NBA player FO can or will ever be able to deliver.

Shane preaches team, preaches sacrifice, preaches playing the right way, preaches effort, preaches winning.

And his preaching is not just talk, he actually did it.

 

Also Battier (& Riley + Spoelstra) seem to be common threads during the recent-ish success of the Heat

 

So, we're saying Miami is so smart and . . . they passed on James Harden. Wait, what is this thread about again?