I feel like excitement over Simmons is really making people forget how lopsided the difference is between James and Simmons. Simmons average career BPM (Box Score +/-) is 3.9 and over the last two seasons has been at 3.6. James career average is 7, and was at 9.6 last season and 11 the year before. Simmons playoff BPM last year was 3.7 and the year before 2.1. James last season was 9.4 and year before was 8.1. In the 2019 playoffs vs. the Raptors where they lost in 7, Simmons had multiple games under 10 points (while playing over 30 mins!). He was a net -16 in the series and in game 7 had 13 points, 5 turnovers, and 5 assists. In 2018 against Boston in the playoffs he had a game where he played 30 mins and scored 1 point. In 22 playoff games he has scored over 20 points just 3 times. Whatever struggles Harden has had in the playoffs pales in comparison to the disappearance act Simmons has put on display annually. Sure, he's young, but even at OKC Harden was more effective coming off the bench while Simmons became a total liability on the floor who teams sagged off due to his non-existent jump shot which created major offensive problems for the rest of the team. Simmons, who now seems to represent the high point of what we can get in a trade, has a 3 point shot that is worse than Lue Dort, who requires the ball to be in his hands a lot to create, and who has not been able to manage a good +/- while surrounded by Embiid, Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris, and good supporting players. This team has arguably a worse supporting cast than he's had in the past and will have to put him in a position that he has not had to play in the past.
Morey is not trading anybody. These threads are useless, because the coach and morey had public announcement during practice that nothing the media is saying has any "Truth" behind it, and they are going to be here this is the team they want for awile, and they will only buiild around simmons and embiid. They are young, why would Morey want to ruin that team, hes already had harden.
That's amusing, because Phila as contructed isn't winning anything. It will take them maybe two weeks to find that out. #OperationKeepHardWoodEnHouston
Sorry one more data point. Take a look at Simmons "game winners" compilation: 1) Most of the late game plays are by others. They're making passes for him to get alley oops or dunks by creating while he's just slowly walking up the backside of the D. 2) Not a single jump shot in the mix. 3) Most of these plays aren't even clutch. They're not the very last play in a game, just a close game where he scores with 30 seconds to a 1 min+ remaining. 4) One of the highlights is from him in college lol This is 3 seasons worth of material now.
simmons' inability to shoot or even just look to score means pnr won't be effective at all with simmons as the main ballhandler, even with cwood or boogie. defense is just gonna go under the screen every single time and dare simmons to shoot outside. build a 5-out offense for ben simmons? the whole point of 5-out is to maximize floor spacing to give your main guy more room to work with. defenses are just gonna stay home with shooters and dare simmons to beat them iso'd out on the perimeter. a simmons isolation offense sounds disgusting. the guy barely has any post moves so working simmons through the post isn't gonna work either.
we'll just have to hope we beat them down the floor with wall and simmons before the half-court defense gets set. When it gets set, Simmons can play the capela role, and screen for wall and role. Just his defense alone with his transtiion and driving ability is still better than most players. We would just have to hope that his corner 3 has improved so he can plant there. i think we have to take him over tyler hero. Simmons is a physical speciman. his shot has got to become decent at some point. its not like we'd be expecting to be a contender. We'd be rebuilding for the future.
Simmons has had pretty good scorers around him, Embiid, Redick, Saric, Belinelli, Butler, Harris. Yet they couldn't get past second round in the East in the three years with Simmons. In fact, one can argue that the Sixers had more talents around Simmons than we had around Harden.
Turn it around and tell Morey now we'll give you Wall for Simmons! Starting Lineup of Harden Gordon Simmons Tucker Wood
bro you have me totally convinced at this point. Why? - shooting is the most important skill in the nba in 2021. By far. Offensive schemes can get you open. Spacing and rules make it impossible to guard. No I would take Duncan Robinson alone over Simmons obviously. But Robinson is a much closer player to Simmons than should be even remotely possible. I mean dude is in the NBA basically cause he can shoot really really good. - ft liability. So doubly useless in the clutch. Can’t shoot. Can’t hit FTs. Even if he manages to drive smart defenses will just hack him rather than give him an easy look - one season of Russ was painful af. I never cared for his month and a half decent stretch. From a basketball entertainment perspective... dang it was hard to watch... imo. I like the “beautiful game”. Sorry that doesn’t make me a “traitor” to tell you I’d rather watch showtime Lakers, Spurs 2010s insane passing offense, the warriors recent run, heck the way the Heat play a bit, even the triangle ... then watch struggle in the half court or effectiveness but with zero movement. Ben counteracts the issue because he is great in the open court, a great passer and not as “brute force” as Russ was... but I don’t think a primary usage guy that can’t shoot is that fun to watch. You know Giannis is this way too. He’s amazing... but I don’t actually enjoy watching him that much. It’s all brute force as opposed to skill. so... yeah... it basically comes down to his shooting. And that’s how important it is. That he’s so good that if he just could shoot he’s be too 3 MVP for the next decade... but because he can’t ... this thread exists
Simmons- We should of just kept Westbrick and built around him. Traded Harden to the highest bidder- ***k cheeseburger morley! We know Simmons is not a morley player and now he’s trying to dump him on us....
really the only point that matters. He’s elite in every other way. Athleticism, playmaking, ball handling(?), DEFENSE. Teams will pay close to max for him. But you’ll always have a star (taking a chunk of cap) that can’t do something crucial — Shoot the ball — like at all. Unless he commits to working on his shot and maybe committing a full season to poor shooting for the sake of game reps, he’s always going to be handicapped.
I don't think he's ever going to develop a shot. He's going into his third season. His FT-percentage is in the "bad center FT %" range. His form is poor mechanically, and aside from short-range floaters, he's never going to be a guy knocking down 10-15 ft jumpers with any consistency.
Ben Simmons >>>>>> Herro package minus Bam and it's not even close. It's laughable in fact. Simmons has been a top ten assist leader since he stepped on the court.
Compared to Herro package minus Bam.... it's not even close. Gambling on Herro MAYBE being an all star instead of going for the ACTUAL all star is just some crazy gambling. I mean if you love long shot gambling, then just say so.
