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Being home while Black.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, Dec 16, 2020.

  1. Reeko

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    “What is going on?” Young yelled in the video. “There’s nobody else here, I live alone. I mean, what is going on here? You’ve got the wrong house. I live alone.”

    “It’s one of those moments where I felt I could have died that night,” she said. “Like if I would have made one wrong move, it felt like they would have shot me. I truly believe they would have shot me.”

    1 wrong move, and they would’ve lit her up

    she should sue for millions
     
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  2. Air Langhi

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    Its her fault for being black.
     
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  3. edwardc

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    Really dude really this type of crap is why people have been marching in the streets and taking a knee.
     
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  4. Air Langhi

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    It is called sarcasm. Black people just don't seem to matter in this country. The mayor Chicago is black and her office was trying to block the video.
     
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  5. edwardc

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    I know that's why i wrote it like that .
     
  6. London'sBurning

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    This seems like one of those stories where multiple chains of command could have caught this error in raiding the wrong home yet sheer incompetency across the board allowed it to slip through. It's been two years and yet the results to the investigation are still pending, which again hints to either incompetency and/or mix of deliberate neglect.

    Besides the errors, it's troubling they aren't even willing to investigate whether it's an error in communication from police dispatch or some other reasons. Maybe dispatch gave the wrong address by saying Avenue instead of Street. Maybe instead of 1423 Spencer Street, the dispatcher said 1324 Spencer Avenue for instance. Maybe the DA that drafted the legal paperwork for a judge to approve the raid messed up the address. Maybe the judge that approved the raid ****ed up through some human error. Did a police informant give bad intel to the whereabouts of the person they were trying to apprehend during the raid? Did law enforcement that trusted this informant's intel not follow through in other ways to corroborate the accuracy of the intel received? There has to be some explanations that lead to this outcome, and yet the same police department that made this error aren't doing their due diligence to see where they messed up to prevent future situations like this from ever happening again. I'm sorry isn't just an apology. It's an assurance that you will better prepare to prevent a similar outcome from happening a second time. By not completing the investigation to determine the causes to this outcome, they have no means to prevent it from happening in the future beyond covering it up.

    I mean nurses in hospitals have to check the patient they're about to administer treatment to is the person they're supposed to give treatment to. That means checking wrist bands with Name and DOB. That means confirming with the patient, assuming they're conscious, to give their name and DOB to see if it matches the band. If the patient is unconscious, there's the previous nurse on rotation's notes to fall back to. There's other staff in the same nursing station. There are multiple ways to check for errors, yet some surgeons still end up cutting open the wrong knee to repair a torn ACL for instance. Those surgeons and surgical staff also had multiple ways to prevent those types of mistakes from happening. Yet they still do because of incompetency and human error.

    The fact this video footage will be used as training footage of what not to do has got to suck also. You get wrongfully raided in your own home while naked and then got to live with the fact it will be used as training, maybe across the whole nation with all law enforcement, of what not to do. If all law enforcement recruits for the coming decades had to see my naked fat ass handcuffed because of their **** up, I'd expect some compensation to make up for the lack of dignity I was treated with. At least that much. I mean if I'm handcuffed and naked on camera in my own home, I at least want a happy ending and you better pay my ass. :D
     
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  7. Nook

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    Not surprised this is in Chicago.

    Chicago has “black people” and then “THOSE black people”...

    For a long time Chicago pushed all the black people that moved from the South into certain neighborhoods. When manufacturing jobs began to dry up in the 1950’s, all the cuts were to black employees. All of the black people on aid is that lost their jobs were pushed into large scale housing developments and were separated from the rest of the city.

    The mayor, the governors, the police and the citizens of Chicago supported the plans to shove all of these groups of black people into large scale areas away from White people and businesses. It resulted in even less employment in these black areas. The areas were so dangerous that police wouldn’t enter. Black gangs and leaders ruled the area and any business and drug trade and murder for hire.

    Starting in the 1980’s the city was embarrassed of all the press coverage of having massive projects where hundreds were shot and killed from gang violence in a two mile square area.

    By the late 90’s decisions were made to arrest all gang members in Chicago. I was a federal prosecutor helping do that. Also at the same time the mayor broke the law and had the projects torn down over night and broke the project black people into 4-5 groups across the city. Around that same time we had essentially arrested and incarcerated every single gangster leader in the city and had put in prison an entire generation of black gang members. Crime became less predictable as new gang members got younger with no leadership.

    To this day being a black person from one of these 3-4 neighborhoods results in extreme prejudice. The dress and culture in these areas is distinct. The police and city has zero care or respect for people from these areas, especially young people. A black person under 40 that looks or sounds like he is from the projects will be viewed as a dangerous drug dealer and gang member by the overwhelming majority of Chicago. The attitude in the city is there can be no real improvement or reform to the people in those areas... they are viewed and treated like animals.

    Police in those parts of the city are hardened from seeing gang violence and constant death of young black people.

    What we did in Chicago as a federal prosecutor is the biggest regret of my life. We did arrest a lot of dangerous people but we also eliminated two generations of black men and kids were left to raise themselves... and we didn’t eliminate gangs, just made them less predictable.

    Inner city Chicago in the black area projects are what happens when a society and city lose all empathy. Even black people not in these neighborhoods aren’t that sympathetic to what is happening... virtually no one is but the people in these neighborhoods. I have been in the schools these kids attend... some have no AC or broken heating... some have whole classrooms closed because of leaking and falling apart roofs.... their text books are 20 years old and kids regularly get shot at trying to get home to lock themselves inside.

    Go walk around these neighborhoods and a few things stand out. The first is that the areas are 100% black, the second is that there are only a handful of men over 30 in the neighborhood. Why? They are all in jail for decades for drug offenses or murder and second many were killed by other gang members... 90% of the adults are women. There are no old men, there are some old women but mostly you have single women in there 30’s - 50’s that work long hours far from their homes and take the train home every night.
     
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  8. Nook

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    It is the Chicago Police Department and District Attorney Office.... they do this stuff all the time. They get away with it, cover up’s happen a lot... the police Union is extremely powerful and the DA and Mayor go along with anything the PD wants to do as far as cover up’s. Chicago cops are famous for shooting black people dead and they also love to let a dead murder victim lay in the street without covering up the corpse... the protocol is to send dozens of officers and detectives and EMS to the scene and just stand around, usually indifferent to the dead person... people that live in the neighborhood see it and are resentful the cops don’t care... when I was involved solved homicide rate was 20%... and how many of them were rightfully convicted?
     
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    Just makes me think of the Wire reading stuff like this. The inner workings of law enforcement and local government just doesn't apply to my everyday life especially not living in Chicago.



    I have a lot of respect for David Simon. He illustrates the importance of fantastic investigative journalism and I think his solutions to help address problems with law enforcement are reasonable. Like he gives an example with Boston where they asked law enforcement detectives to give their top 10 perps that constantly show up in their paperwork but continue to evade their grasp. And they collected about 112 or so perps from the bunch and focused solely on their worst offenders. Murder rates the following year dropped over 100% with targeted busts. Also gives advice to law enforcement that have the ability to promote and change the culture within their own departments. Doesn't address solutions to fixing funding to help break cycles of crime or poverty, but I think the Wire covered how children end up becoming criminals, and how gaming stats to please the next highest in the chain of command is a systemic issue as well. If it's just easier to cover up then there's no incentive to ever truly fix things.



    Second video is related as it covers systemic racism with things like redlining, predatory lawyers that do lump sums for lawsuit settlements, long term incarceration for non-violent drug offenders with weed possession despite some states legalizing weed and it being a multibillion dollar industry and lead paint affecting cognition of children that grow up in broken down housing with not to code buildings that are systemically neglected because black people primarily reside in that broken down housing.
     
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    The mayor, police chief, officers and every idiot involved in this ****, and its cover up, should be stripped naked and paraded in public as part of a training video.
     
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    Did yall never watch The Wire?
     
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