Certainly compared to what it could have been, and compared to what was feared would be the case. The fact that the average age of a COVID death is higher than the average life expectancy is absolutely a good thing. We could be dealing with something that actually affects kids and young people rather than those instances being extreme outliers.
Has it been as bad as worse case scenario>? Absolutely not. However we are still likely looking at the loss of a half million Americans in 12 months and many others that have long term side effects. There is also no way to know what the death toll would be had the President not taken some preventative measures. The total death toll from COVID in the USA will end up not being much different than the Spanish Flu. Now the population is far greater now, but medicine is also improved.
We're not even a 300K yet and it's been a year already since COVID-19 got to the US. So for your projection to be accurate, we'd need 200K more before like March....and that's AFTER there's a vaccine for it. The Spanish Flu was a much more costly disease because it didn't almost exclusively target the elderly like COVID-19. Picking off the young is MUCH worse than going after those on death's doorstep already. The original projections were millions, it ended up to be nowhere near that partly due to the actions taken by everyone but the embarrassments of NY and NJ.
We are at roughly 300K with roughly 3.5 months to go and right now are seeing about 2-3000 dead a day right now, and we still haven't had the likely Christmas spike yet so we should be pretty close to 500K. I agree, the Spanish Flu mostly targeted those in their 20's and 30's, but the death of those with pre existing conditions and the old still matter. From what I remember the original projects were if NO intervention was made, and the high end death toll was projected between 200K and 1.7 M. That is the estimates listed by the CDC back on March 13, 2020 and they make it very clear that is if nothing was done. Well, we now are looking at a loss of close to 500K with prevention, so the estimates of the CDC were really not all that outlandish.
This is the CDC data from that link. It does not deal with homicides and suicides. It primarily relates to cardiovascular diseases, cancer, dementia, diabetes, and respiratory diseases. The largest estimated excess death tolls in those groups are 53k+ excess cardiovascular disease deaths 36k+ excess dementia and Alzheimer deaths 13k+ excess diabetes deaths 6k+ excess respiratory disease deaths 4k excess cancer deaths I need to go back thru the data I was compiling and see how things have changed during this recent spike from state to state.
I wrote out a long response to this that ended up being a bit too morbid and it discussed far too many uncomfortable truths that no one really wants to think about or admit so I just deleted it all. I'm just not in the mood for that kind of talk right now, so I'm heading back to basketball talk. I'll just say that I don't think our opinions are too different on this and if I was in a different mood, I'd be all for discussing it further.
Fair enough, that is quite odd. Perhaps it's due to people not going to the doctor as much due to the COVID nonsense. It's certainly an interesting group of facts I didn't know.
The Sputnik vaccine requires people to abstain completely from alcohol for 2 months. I really thought it was some kind of Onion article when I read that Of all the people it is the Russians who ended up making these vaccines lmao Something tells me that their vaccination effort will not be very successfull.
Lol no it wasnt misreported. The original instructions by the manufacturers is for 2 months to 82 days! to build immunity. But after the public outcry and media and political pressure they were forced to have an intense meeting and came out with " We guess it could work with at minimum 6 days". I mean with such long soberity requirement it is pretty useless for use in adults let alone Russians.
Not sure what details you're getting in that analysis. Call me what you want. I'd bet money I'd beat you in any intelligence test. I've been showing data for months. Months on this. You choose to believe the media. I'll continue to do so in the months/years you choose to worry about this. 9 months I've been showing you all this is bullshit. Are you aware that Covid was proven to go through sewage pipes? Kinda messes up the mask thingie. Another thing to ponder: Why have no celebrities died of this? Not sure I've even seen one in ICU. Meanwhile our electorates are doing whatever they feel like doing. I'm not saying this isn't a real virus. I am saying it isn't nearly as deadly as you believe.
Turd immunity without vaccines is still the most willfully dangerous course of action, if not only for the death tolls but also the absolute collapse of our patchwork healthcare system. Sure you can pitch up tents and use all those excess respirators POTUS grabbed, but without professionals to use them, the patients mostly sit there hoping not to die. ICU being at fifty percent capacity is already bad as other non covid patients are waiting in the same queue. We really like making decent people eat ****. This time it's healthcare workers. Hope no one has to pull the plug on any jackass do thinks otherwise That sounds like something Dream used to teach Dwight in his 50k per day sessions.
Denton County up here in the DFW area is running into this. A few days ago they were down to 5 or 6 ICU beds available. That's for a county with a population near 900,000. When they say 5 beds left, it doesn't necessariliy mean they can simply add more beds. In this case it means that's all the staff they have available to take care of ICU patients. They can probably get staff from other locations around the DFW metroplex, but then if there's another spike for Christmas, no telling what that does to other parts of the city. Today, I think they were up to 8 ICU beds available in the county, so either they went and grabbed more nurses from elsewhere or some patients got better and/or died. I think over 50% of the ICU beds are filled with COVID patients at the moment.
