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Official Rockets 2020 Training Camp Thread:

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets13champs, Dec 6, 2020.

  1. daywalker02

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    Go Chiney!
     
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  3. D-rock

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    The more TF talks the more fake he comes across.

    His lack of self awareness is mind blowing.

    Even ESPN is calling him out now.

    It's like FOX admitting Biden won the presidency.
     
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  4. Nook

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    Well that was a waste of 4 minutes
     
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    The only part I didnt agree with was the Harden wants a voice bit. Like c'mon Harden's gotten everything he's ever wanted from this organization and some...

    (find the best deal (Simmons) and let this dude walk)
     
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    Tillman was and will always be a delusional tool. But he does want to win, I think, his ego wont let him settle for anything less. We'll see how it plays out.
     
  7. jakedasnake

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    You are right. James is mentally tough and does not need any unassuming, down to earth people in his life like John Lucas or Stephen Silas that he trusts. One of them has been to hell and back again. The other has been around the NBA his whole life and an assistant since Harden was in elementary school as @Nook put it. Didn't realize "father figure" can trigger someone so much. If you want to change "father figure" to confidant/person James can trust since MDA and Morey left then that is fine by me but that is how I view a father figure. Someone who is wise beyond their years since age is just a number and life experiences are what matters.
     
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    If you disrespect someone do you automatically deserve their respect? If you break a promise, should people still trust you? Don't take this as me saying Harden did that but as a response to your "transactional" comment.

    As a fan, support is definitely earned. But it's cool, we don't have to agree on what it is to be a fan. Players should use their leverage—cause yes, owners treat them like a commodity—but they can still do it in a professional way. That's all I'm asking. Whether they do it or not is neither here nor there but as a fan of him and of the team I can hope for that, can't I?
     
  9. D-rock

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    He doesnt know how to win, that is the problem.

    Cannot do it by cutting costs and treating players like disposable hourly wage workers.

    Shut and Listen just won't shut and listen.

    He'd rather hear himself talk and drive away his best assets.
     
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    I'm so tired of the ****ing media at this point, they do any and everything to bring the Rockets down.. how the **** did we not get better with the additions we added.. we didn't have a center last year, tallest guy was 6'8.. but they say we didn't get better.. :mad:' so fustrated..
     
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    yup, gordon also missed half the season while tucker/house played w/ injured shoulders. and capela was out a while before getting traded. much better coaching staff now as well.
     
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    Wall, Wood, Cousins is better than Westbrook, Rivers and Jeff green. Is that really that controversial considering the team did worse with Westbrook on the floor and wasn't able to keep a center on the team because of him
     
  13. D-rock

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    Well, we had an all in Harden last season for one.
     
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    Tilman was talking about improving the roster. Harden is still on it, whether he is allin or not isn't controlled by the Rockets.

    Whoever said Tilman is like Trump is right. People hate him so much that even when he says obvious facts people have to contradict him out of spite. If they said the sky was blue you would have people up in arms arguing it's pink.
     
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    Problem is that Tilly is more likely to say the sky is pink instead.

    Just shut up and listen.
     
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    They "owe" what they've agreed to contractually. Hakeem was a free agent at the end of his career...
    What he was "worth" was dependent on the team. We were rebuilding. Toronto had VC and was trying to compete.

    It is a business and owners are required to uphold the contracts as well. It's one thing to do your job and complain. It's another to just not show up entirely. He's late, but he's "here." So hopefully Harden becomes professional again. He owes Tilman, the team, and us fans at least that.
     
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    Then pan him when he does. Not when he's stating obvious facts. These dumbasses are acting like he's crazy for saying they improved the team.
     
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    They don't even know who Christian Wood is.

    They will soon.
     
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    The team is not improved.

    There is POTENTIAL for improvement.

    If, and it's a big IF, two former all stars are able to return 100% from serious career defining injuries after 2 YEARS away from basketball.

    AND if neither of these 2 players require load management.

    And we are only discussing Wall and Cousins.

    We have yet to discuss David Nwaba or Gerald Green's hopes for contributions.
     
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    "We" being the team/organization.
    I say "we" because the fans have tolerated and encouraged the organization to do everything to cater to Harden. Relax.

    The people who need to relax and understand this isn't THEIR life/money are the ones that constantly blame Tilman for everything.
     

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