If Harden is simply holding out bc he doesnt want to honor his contract... what to do?

pretty sure that ship has sailed

 

Ride his ass on the pine

 

Easy. Trade him where you want to trade him. If there is trade protection and Harden can refuse then make him stay and honor his contract. Morey traded for CP3 and then he wanted Westbrook and Tillman got it done. F this dude. Grow some nuts and adopt a winning leadership mentality.

 

what would harden look like (like, literally look like) after two years of not playing?

 

My point was the Rockets can’t go and get a court order to forcibly bring him to camp. Their options are either stop paying him ( which he seems to be fine with) or just tear up his deal which what he may want.

If he comes to camp disgruntled and pulls an AD and has general soreness every second game it will just make the locker room toxic.

Eventually the Rockets need to take the best offer available

 

Lol playing the role of santa.

 

Anyone here wonder what the hell happened behind the scenes since the end of the season? Now there’s a few reports out there about a “toxic” culture. Same culture cultivated by Morey and MDA? What was so bad about it? Harden has been here for 8 years and seemingly no issues till now. Why did Russ leave all of a sudden after being involved in the coaching interview process? Maybe this is all answered in the athletic’s piece but I’m too cheap to subscribe. I can only assess based on the reporting and lack thereof that the stars had an idea what they wanted in a coach and in a roster but management had other ideas. this combined with the abrupt leaving of Morey set off major concerns. But I do have reason to believe Russ discovered at some point Rockets wanted to trade him. There were early reports that came out right after the end of the season that the Rockets were shopping Russ. I think this is why there’s recent reports of him feeling hurt and upset that he is the scapegoat. That’s why he did them therapy videos on IG. And as Russ, MDA, and Morey goes Harden wants out as well. Because none of this makes much sense to me how much it has escalated. But You can’t blame Harden for wanting to abandon ship. Bands break up. Business partnerships fail. Friendships end. It’s life.

 

Tillman

 

got to be a better explanation. I dunno. Just seems odd. Doesn’t make sense.

 

I've always wondered what would happen in the situation where a player is so upset that he just flat our refuses to play until he's traded. Has that happened before? It's a violation of your contract right? The team can withhold pay and save money, while the player still can't sign anywhere else, right? If that happens, could we theoretically use the money saved to get back below the cap/tax thresholds and sign another player? Do we re-enter luxo tax territory if he decides to play for us again?

Extreme scenario, I know, but curious what the details of this would be.

 

Dont think the CBA works like that. The player is still under contract. Still counts against the cap regardless.

 

Get rid of this bum. Just setting a poor example no matter what team he ends up. What an embarrassment.

 

Toxic culture. Russ called out Tillman. Mike, Morey and now harden wanting out.Tillman handicapping Morey from making moves that could have gone over the luxury tax but ultimately making us a contender .. the list goes on

 

If Harden wants to burn the only fans that defended him for almost a decade when he got clowned by every fan base In the league that’s a pretty stupid man right there

 

Harden seems to be fine with that scenario, but all the while his value will plummet

 

Try to trade for your 1st rd pick back.

 

Technically he does not, if he sits out, the two years left on his contract remains till he plays again. Meaning if he sits out next year, he still has two years left with the Rockets and they don't have to pay his salary. Sitting out won't remove one of those years..........