Harden's mother: "He is doing the best for his career...He is asking for a chance to get a ring”

I am still not worried
We will know by Jan 1st
I think the first games will say what we have

Rocket River

 

Yes I know why it is bad.

Tilman does not understand the culture around the NBA and he is trying to import the culture that is prevalent around the hospitality industry to the Rockets and it will not work. In the hospitality market it is acceptable to treat employees poorly, to put constant pressure on them and to make veiled threats. That doesn't work in the NBA.

Also, there are rules for negotiating in the NBA, there are rules of decorum that don't exist in the hospitality industry. Tilman wants chaos, and 100% support of his employees and gets that with threat of losing their job.... that doesn't work well in the NBA.

Also, cutting corners doesn't work in the NBA either like it does in the hospitality industry. In the NBA you get what you pay for. Good assistants and front office hires cost money and those jobs cannot be easily filled. Not all role players are the same, not all travel arrangements or practice facilities.

Tilman also tended to tell Morey he could do his job, and then Tilman would at the last minute try to exert his opinion into the conversation.

You can be excited you no longer have to pay your GM 7-8 million a year and can replace him with someone making a million a year.... but more often than not you get what you paid for. You don't want to pay Ariza 15 million for a single season when you can sign Ennis for 2 million? You get what you paid for..... you don't want to bring in front office people from outside the organization for the basketball operations positions when you can just promote someone from the non basketball operations side for a fraction of the cost? You get what you paid for.

At the end of the day you have an owner that thinks all business is the same and it isn't and the people around the Rockets and other basketball teams are not used to being treat like ****....... so now it is toxic.

Someone should ask Morey how he liked bringing Tilman's son with him everywhere he went.... I am sure that was a lot of fun.

 

I'm more inclined to accept it. Someone going back on their word when their is evidence is hard and a hoe move. If he is lying i feel a lot better slandering him.

 

I think Harden and Morey were both Rockets for life until you know who came in.

Now they are both going to be gone, thanks Turdman

 

I am still optimistic that Harden will be in Houston this year and no just because of his contract. He has a new restaurant, is part owner of the Dynamo and with Wall and Cousins and Wood can afford to see how things shake out for another year. It is not like this is his last chance to chase a ring.

 

Kyrie said he would stay in Cleveland on camera, and said he’d re-sign in Boston on video, and we saw what happened

Lillard could very well just stay in Portland, retire ringless, and be content...I don’t think he’s a good comparison to Harden because no one clowns Lillard for being ringless or talks about his legacy

Lillard can average 18 points and get swept in the 1st round, and it’s crickets...nobody cares

Lillard retires ringless and it’s whatever...Harden retires ringless and he’s a disappointment and a loser because of this rings culture

 

And that's the point. He doesn't say anything. If you're committed to Houston, then either say it or show it. If you want to be traded, fine, then say it as well. Leaving things up to sources, cryptic post on social media, and proxies through your mother, is immature.

 

The entire way he's handled himself has been a hoe move no matter what his intentions are, that seems to be just what kind of person he is.

 

Who had the Warriors winning a title in 2015? No one predicted that dynasty. That team wasn't stacked, it was just a well built team and Curry made things easier by completely buying in to the process and being a leader.

People really should watch the Last Dance. There is a value to leadership. Player like Jordan and a coach like Phil unlocked a player like Rodman. Had he been under any other team he would have been a wild player that couldn't be controlled. Under those two though he could and he contributed and he played hard for them.

You guys think Draymond works anywhere else?

Let Draymond tell it...

 

So you don’t think the culture could be toxic given Tillman’s recent reign of terror.? I mean we’ve had multiple reports of it right? As I stated before Morey and Mike left why? Westbrook through the media called out Tilman right so there must be something to it.

 

Honestly, **** this dude and his mommy.

The Rockets need to do what is best for the Rockets, not what is best for this ungrateful prick.

If we trade him we must trade him for the best deal possible, if that means sending Harden to the worst team in the league, then so be it. If no deal is good enough then he needs to show up or be fined, period!

The Rockets FO said they were willing to get uncomfortable, well it is getting uncomfortable, now we will see who has the the bigger balls in this game of chicken.

 

lol Can't believe it's gotten to a point where Harden's mom and sister are both speaking for him.

If Tilman refuses to budge before the season starts, Harden will still show up to the arena and play 5 minutes then check himself out so he can get his paycheck.

 

He had his team leak his trade wishes to Woj. I think that's pretty standard. Players don't usually come out in a press conference and say "I want to be traded."

 

Better yet, Harden will pull a Kawhi and say he's injured and sit out the season while partying like Bynum did while he was injured.

 

Exactly. An all-around terrible comparison to begin with since he's not even in the same stratosphere as Harden.

 

This is Stephen A/BKN nets rhetoric.

 

Betcha he ends up in Golden state....

 

Westbrook doesn't have low Bball IQ. He just has low IQ, period.

 

lol what?

I’m the one providing statistical information and the information that the beat writer said when he was asked the question “why does Westbrook continue to shoot so many bad shots, is he being coached and told that he’s not good at these shots?”

You don’t like the sound of it and are talking nonsense.

I provided his career high SEASON. The best single season scoring efficiency season Westbrook ever had was LEAGUE AVERAGE 55%.

His CAREER efficiency is a very, very low 53%.

Yes coaches, coaches who have a vested interest in keeping their jobs and possibly getting jobs in the future, have a long extended history of talking about how their “superstar” players aren’t exactly doing what they are trying to tell them.

Your extreme disdain for statistical fact is comical. Every single pull up jumper that Westbrook has ever taken has been documented. The percentage that that shot goes in is a recorded statistical fact. There is no arguing it. There is no magical wizardry to come up with it.

It’s no different than a free throw percentage. We know what a good free throw percentage is. We know what a bad free throw percentage is. How do we figure out a players free throw percentage? We count how many he makes vs how many he takes. No fancy math.

Westbrook has NEVER been a knock down shooter of anything outside the paint. At his ABSOLUTE PEAK he was LEAGUE AVERAGE. And that was for 2 seasons, the most recent being 4 years ago.

Every single Harden step back 3 has been documented. We know the percentage of how many of them go in and how many miss. The end result, on average, is a very efficient outcome. It is why he has the freedom to shoot them. It is know that it is statistically beneficial.

I don’t think everything comes down to numbers, but what we are talking about right here has everything to do with simple, simple math.

Has Westbrook ever made enough of his stupid shots to justify taking so many of them? NO

Have coaches tried to make him aware of this, if only to help him be a better player? YES

Did it change how he plays? NO

 

Again, you bring up "Better than Westbrook!" That's not my argument. You guys are so defensive about this and you know the answer. Harden has had terrible playoff series, one of them, his benching was a reason his team won.

I bring up Harden's playoff performance to say that Russ' one playoff series with us isn't indicative of his whole career like you make it seem. His entire career is first ballot HOF.

Me saying Harden has had bad playoff series isn't trashing Harden. It's the truth.