Five Thousand (5,000) Years of Cheating and Stealing

Usually the teacher assigns reading before having an older, racist colleague fill in, but I guess every once in a while they bring their own sub text.

 

When your senator posts racist sh-- that's incorrect; Wei-hua, I got you all in check.

LIFE TIME b****

 

Yeah they do have a 5000 history of cheating and stealing.

So do her own family ancestors otherwise she wouldn't be alive today to spew bullcrap.

 

Anglo Saxons literally pillaged and colonized GB from the Celts. Our whole way of life was born of subjugation.

Shout out to the British empire which stole the whole world.

Egypt, Mesopotamia, China, Norte Chico (RIP) and Indus River Valley civilization (RIP) are Civilizations OGs.

But Modern China has as much to do with Ancient China as Iraq does with Mesopotamia or Modern Egypt with Ancient Egypt.

 

When these people are "ironic" all the time, it becomes more a case of blatant and malignant stupidity.

"Party of No"
"Death Cult"
"Peddlers of Hate"

 

I looked she has a bachelors in home economics from the bastion of higher education the University Mississippi State. She also won a beauty pageant too. Somewhere between those two things she read up on the 5,000 years of Chinese history she referenced.





lol

 

That's simply not true.

There is a cultural, ethnical and linguistic continuum which doesn't exist in Mesopotamia and is almost eliminated in Egypt.

The Assyrians and Sumerians have ended up as dead languages and only some Assyrian tribes exist that are almost extinct hunted and enslaved by ISIS.
As for ancient Egyptians they have have been mostly killed off/intergrated by Arabs and the only remaining linguistically and ethnically are the minority of the Copts which again are being proosecuted by the Arab majority.

 

Exactly, thats part of China's uniqueness as a civilization. Its continuation of culture through thousands of years.

Greece and Rome has so much influence over Western civilization, that their ancient past exists throughout most of the world starting with political systems

 

We don't even need to go back to the Anglo Saxons US history is very much based on pillaging and colonizing the North American Continent from the indigenous people. That's why most Native Americans don't look upon Thanksgiving or Columbus Day as holidays to be celebrated..

Malakas is right also that Chinese civilization is a continuous and while it's changed and evolved, there is a direct line between the nation that was built by Qin Shi Huangdi to the current nation of the PRC. Chinese civilization has been broken and conquered but it's never been lost like civilizations of Angkor, Sumer or Babylon or rendered archaic like Rome or Persia. Politically also is that the PRC itself references China of the Ming and T'ang Dynasties to justify current actions. For example the the PRC claim to Tibet is based upon the T'ang Dynasty and to the South China Sea is on the Ming Dynasty.

 

It is not true that Persia has been rendered archaic.

Just because they have changed their writing system and their dominant religion.
They haven't been arabised, intergrated or absorbed. And not because of luck.

And it is very unfair to say that they are archaic after all they have been through and still remain and persist among so many others that have been lost to history..
What other middle eastern nation has managed to keep their identity after the forced arabisation efforts except the Persians?
Not to mention the Mongol, Roman and Greek conquests before that?

And in fact they were the cultural centre of the Islamic golden Age despite forced to be islamised and the centuries long effort to be arabised.

There is a continuum also ethnically, in language, literature and poetry, science, culture ( manners and hospitality), cuisine and even still crypto zoroastrism.

*OT
Speaking of the evolving chinese language I meant to ask you this but I didn't get the chance. How much has chinese evolved? I tried to look it up but I couldn't find information. Can a modern mandarin speaker read and understand middle age mandarin? How about 1000 or 2000 year old texts?
Possibly one of the oldest reliigions with 4000 year history.

 

https://camphorpress.com/5000-years-of-history/

 

This isn't an area I've studied a lot of but my understanding is that while yes Iran / Persia has kept an identity apart and hasn't been overwhelmed by Arabic culture I think that is a little different than the continuation of the civilization that flourished under Darius and Xerxes.

When I'm referring as "archaic" isn't that died out, was forgotten or doesn't have any relevance to the modern world but that as a nation / political entity with a on going organic culture isn't around. Rome as the city still exist, Italy exist as a nation and Latin is part of many languages including English but the Roman Empire no longer exists nor is Latin spoken as an everyday practical language.

The Chinese Han Dynasty about 2,000 years ago and older looks pretty different but many of the characters are recognizable and can be read if you know Chinese. By the T'ang Dynast about 1200 years ago the Chinese characters look pretty much like what we see now. One side note is that in the last 100 years several simplified Chinese characters were introduced. Those are the characters used in the PRC. while Taiwan and HK still primarily use the old characters to what has been used since the T'ang Dynasty.

From what I've heard is that the spoken language has changed a lot and what most Chinese spoke during the T'ang dynasty was very different from Mandarin. Mandarin is originally a northern dialect and didn't become in widespread usage until the Ming Dynasty about 600 years ago when the capital was moved to Beijing.

While I'm rambling here the idea that the PRC is a continuation of China as the nation going all the way back to the Qin Dynasty isn't clear cut. Most Chinese and the current regime believe this but the CCP hasn't always followed this. Mao considered Chinese civilization moribund and the cultural revolution was about breaking from the past and making the China of the past archaic. The CCP will simultaneously say they are not tied to Chinese history from the imperial dynasties while celebrating the First Emperor and pressing territorial claims from the T'ang Dynasty.

 

Both Mao & Chiang Kai-shek were power hungry a-holes who gladly murdered their own people in the name of nationalistic goals. If you really think about it, had Chiang Kai-shek never tried to essentially become a fascist authoritarian ruler of all of China, Mao might have never come to power (ironically a populist).

 

The writer is correct that as far as definitive Chinese history it does only go back about 3,600 years ago and the civilizations of Egypt and Mesopotamia is much older. The big difference is that those civilizations haven't been continuous to current times. Cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphics couldn't be read for thousands of years between when those civilizations collapsed and were rediscovered. While the Chinese language has continued on to present day. Ur, Babylon and Persepolis were abandoned but Chang'an the capital of the First Emperor of China was used as a capital many times in Chinese history and even now is still a major city, the modern city of Xi'an.

 

Sun Yat Sen was the father of Modern China and revered by both the Nationalists and the Communists. if Chiang had been more like Sun it's possible that things might've been different. Even under Sun's leadership China was still in very bad shape with parts of the country controlled by warlords and foreign powers occupying large parts of it. Sun wanted to build a modern economy with a modern political structure similar to the US but there was so many problems that the communist revolution still might've happened.

 

I think that was in The Art of War as interpreted by Alex Cora.

 

This site shows good examples of how characters evolved over time. https://www.omniglot.com/chinese/evolution.htm
The characters hasn't really changed in 2000 years until simplified characters were adapted by the PRC in 1949. Characters from 2000 to 3000 years ago are still mostly legible. Anything older than that will require more context and imagination.

In terms of syntax, modern Chinese writing is in 'written vernacular Chinese'. Before the 20th century, formal Chinese writing would be in 'Classical Chinese' which can be understood to varying degree by a laymen depending on their education level and degree of interest in classical Chinese and Chinese philosophy. I'd say most would be able to read all of the characters but not completely understand the meaning. Studying of classical Chinese poetry and literary works is a standard part of education from middle school and on.

 

Polo would have paid a hefty sum because of intellectual property today.

 

Oh sure they have continuation.
There was the Seleucid the Parthian and the Sashanids empires after the Achamenids (Cyrus, Xerxes and Darius). Then the Arabic conquest and Islamification.
They are still around as an organic culture and nation(s). I say nations because since 2000 years ago they were never one nation but many "tribes" The Medes, the Parthians etc. Now many Iranians live outside Iran and are in Kurdistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Their culture, cuisine, language and history is the same so I don't understand how this would be any different than China.

Fun fact, A LOT of the words and dishes that is considered arabic, levantine , turkic and balkan cuisine come from Iran in fact.
They have had a profound and continuous influence in all of the middle east, the arabic world and the eastern mediterranean for 3000 years.

Thanx for answering my question.