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Top Iranian Nuclear Scientist Killed in Apparent Assination

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  1. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    Not that there was any doubt:

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...k-us-for-killing-of-iranian-nuclear-1.9334361


    The world should thank Israel for killing the father of Iran's nuclear weapons program, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, a senior Israeli official told the New York Times on Sunday, citing the global threat such arms would pose.

    The official, who was reportedly involved in the program to track Fakhrizadeh for years and spoke on condition of anonymity, told the Times that Israel would keep acting to curtail Iran's nuclear ambitions.
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's just flat out murder. Israel can do whatever the hell it wants and people like you are apologists for it from naval blockades to counting calories to bombing Lebanon to assassinations to renditions to killing children who throw rocks to kicking people out of their homes to bulldozing their homes to stealing lands to stealing water sources all in the name of some bull**** self-defense. The Israelis are every bit the liars, thieves, killers, terrorists, and murderers that anyone else is in the Middle East. The only difference is the US backs Israel so they never have to face the consequences for their behavior. Israel already owns weapons of mass destruction. Remember this stupid ****?

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  3. Space Ghost

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    Trump abandoned the Iran nuclear deal so Israel improvised.

    #anotherdayinthemiddleeast
     
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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Israel is a democracy. There is freedom of religion in Israel. It's a bastion of freedom in the Middle East.

    CometsWin, you are mostly a decent poster, but your irrational hate of Israel is alarming.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    This is right, the world should thank Israel.
     
  6. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    All countries, including Iran, have a right to research and pursue peaceful nuclear technology. Israel does not have a right to kill Iran’s scientists just because this technology can be used to develop nuclear weapons in the future. There are legitimate steps that should be taken by the international community to reduce the chances of that happening, but Israel and the current US administration have opposed those efforts and worked to undermine them. No, I don’t agree that the world should be thanking them for that.
     
  7. durvasa

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    #107 durvasa, Nov 29, 2020
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  8. Don FakeFan

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    Only cowards rely on terrorism.
     
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    Yes. This is what it all comes down to. Too bad Trump removed us from the treaty that gave access to verify the development was not used to build nuclear missles.
     
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    Israel is really a theocracy. They have measures to prevent an outcome that would ever result in a majority that was anything other than Jewish. I'm okay with their nation and government but we shouldn't pretend it is something other than what it is.
     
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    Under American leadership (real leadership), the world convinced Iran to give up its nuclear program and completely dismantle it. The US reneged.

    It seems to me before you assassinate Iranian scientists (which is an illegal act of war), why not wait until Biden comes into office? Unless that's the reason to act now instead of later. Kill him while you can - not only because Biden would disapprove, but because this act might make it harder to re-enter the nuke deal?
     
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    I do not disagree with you.

    However, is Iran using proxy forces to rocket our embassy in Baghdad a couple weeks ago not an act of war?
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    And killing this guy does what exactly? Using Terrorism to to fight Terrorism doesn't really help anyone.
     
  14. durvasa

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    Not sure of the extent of Iran’s involvement, but I believe the context of those attacks on the embassy is US retaining a military presence in Iraq even though the Iraqi parliament had passed a resolution demanding complete withdrawal after the assassination of Soleimani.
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    So naive.
     
  16. Buck Turgidson

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    Unfortunately both sides resort to this, all too often.
     
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    ...and then did their best to make it more difficult-to-impossible to reinstate a treaty
     
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  18. Redfish81

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    Yes. The sad part is Trump probably thinks Iran is days away from coming to the negotiating table to sign a "better deal".

    Here's and awkward moment. A former US soldier went over to fight ISIS with the Kurds before the US deployed the marines and special ops to fight ISIS. At one point he ended up in a fox hole with Iranian forces fighting together against ISIS in Syria.
     
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  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What mass murder in the last ten years

    You and Trump are living in the past
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Proxy may not be an accurate word here, but let's say they are Iranian backed at the very least. That isn't an act of war, no. No more so than Pakistan committed an act of war on 9/11 despite providing material support to the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

    Regardless, if you think that justifies the extrajudicial killing of a scientist in a foreign country, you are opening up a whole new can of worms.

    By your logic, many countries can now assassinate any American they see as a threat. Whether that be Trump or an American military scientist, or even Mark Zuckerberg.

    It's easy to cheer these types of acts when they get rid of someone you want to get rid of, but once you cross that line, it can be applied both ways and to a far greater extent. This is one of the reasons there is such a thing as the Geneva Conventions.
     

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