1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Let's judge Tillman from this point on

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wizkid83, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. joshuaao

    joshuaao Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    1,481
    Likes Received:
    2,287
    Tillman wasn't willing to spend on the margins when we were championship contenders and that can't be glossed over.That being said, I'm cautiously optimistic about Raphael Stone and Stephen Silas. They have paid their dues and have the potential to bring some fresh thinking to our organization.

    I'll always appreciate the tenacity that Morey brought to this job, but we have talented, fresh blood at the helm. Let's not let the stench of Tillman cloud our judgment of these two.
     
    snowconeman22 and D-rock like this.
  2. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2001
    Messages:
    20,716
    Likes Received:
    6,945
    we have 3 years of ownership to judge him on already.

    every move both on and off the court, since he bought the team, was made to cut costs. there is no reason to think morey was getting in the way of tilman trying to win. its quite clearly the other way around.
     
  3. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,390
    Likes Received:
    29,569
    After the Westbrook trade this is kind of like saying someone punched you in the face and kicked you in the knee but let's call it even from here.
     
  4. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    26,578
    Likes Received:
    35,656
    THIS
     
    AroundTheWorld and D-rock like this.
  5. ROXonROXonROX

    ROXonROXonROX Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2016
    Messages:
    896
    Likes Received:
    825
    If the judging starts now than you have to give him credit if they win the finals. I do agree that Tilman now has all the guys he wanted and let’s see what he does. I’m not a Tilman fan and have showed my displeasure with him via Twitter to the point where I’ve had my account banned and another account suspended for 24 hours. But so far with the promotion of Rafael Stone and hiring of Stephen Silas I’ve been pretty impressed. Now wether they work out or not is a different story but positive moves have been made and let’s not forget that Stone was the mastermind behind most of DM’s trades that got national media attention and Silas was the mastermind behind DAL historic offensive season in 2019-2020. Interesting to see what happens.
     
  6. Caprah

    Caprah Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2018
    Messages:
    1,228
    Likes Received:
    1,748
  7. BHannes2BHonest

    BHannes2BHonest 2 SOLID FOR WEIRD AZZES

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    5,640
    Guys.

    I think its time for another clean slate to judge Tilman on...

    Forget about the Roco salary dump... forget the ariza dump... new beginnings!!!
     
    joshuaao, Bo6, Rudyc281 and 3 others like this.
  8. s3ts

    s3ts Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Messages:
    3,109
    Likes Received:
    2,847
    This is the worst of times to come out and say this.

    Rockets will eventually dump Harden + Russ. So this clean slate? It's going to start off with trading away 2 former MVPs for garbage.

    You might've started this thread in 2022 when Houston sports is a desert wasteland. We haven't even hit bottom yet, nor have we seen the vertical drop-off.
     
    AroundTheWorld likes this.
  9. Erbnwarfare

    Erbnwarfare Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2017
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    246
    Tony Kornheiser blasted Tillman about ruining years franchise lol .
    I don't know how to link.
     
  10. sirjesse

    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2002
    Messages:
    8,614
    Likes Received:
    22,019
  11. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 1999
    Messages:
    22,318
    Likes Received:
    8,179
    I've already judged.

    He approaching Bud Adams territory.
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    37,717
    Likes Received:
    18,918
    We should restart the clock today and judge him only on what he does ignoring the last month.

    Heck, actually, we should only judge him after 5 more seasons past - that would be more fair. You know what, make it 10. The first 12 years as an owner is more of a safety trial and nothing else.
     
    dreamshakin likes this.
  13. Corrosion

    Corrosion Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    8,947
    Likes Received:
    11,407

    Man at least Bud wanted to win .... even if he was an *******.
     
  14. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    58,953
    Likes Received:
    36,512
    Did not age well, and it's 3 weeks ago
     
    split41, Easy, FrontRunner and 3 others like this.
  15. ickaruto

    ickaruto Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2012
    Messages:
    480
    Likes Received:
    1,159
    Watching Morey walk out of the Toyota Cener and get into his Audi was one of the worst things Ive had to endure sports-wise. Having said that, I think we can take a minute to understand that CEO and owner of a dining, hospitality, entertainment and gaming multi-brand corporation is hemorrhaging money due to the pandemic and this is simply out of his control.

    It sucks because I love this team and I've wanted to blame someone since game 5 in 2018.
     
  16. Imanimal

    Imanimal Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    2,716
    Likes Received:
    3,298
    Just wish he’d come out and be honest about his severe financial situation and quit lying to us about an “open pocketbook”, etc.
     
    s3ts likes this.
  17. Erbnwarfare

    Erbnwarfare Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2017
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    246
    He was being cheap before the Pandemic.
     
  18. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    17,615
    Likes Received:
    27,248
    This is a billionaire?

    Guy overpaid and then drove down the value of the franchise. Guy is going to get RAKED when he has to sell in a year or two. What a dumbass. Should have just stayed quiet on the sidelines, but he had to meddle. Thats what you get.
     
  19. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,193
    Likes Received:
    28,059
    The vast majority of his cheapness and stupid choices came before Covid.

    I could almost understand and sympathize with his financial situation if he had been playing to win beforehand, but he wasn't. His MO has been a consistent one in every business he's owned, and now he's treating the Rockets like a new Joes Crab Shack, increase profits by cutting corners.

    He's too stupid to realize winning is what drives value in sports, particularly in such a player driven league.
     
    split41, joshuaao and FrontRunner like this.
  20. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    35,286
    Likes Received:
    24,327
    Donald Sterling's Clippers was a good example of an owner who has no interest in winning but still makes money out of owning the team. The way the NBA is structured (salary cap, lux tax, shared revenue, etc.) makes it awfully hard to lose money for individual ownership.

    The NBA is in actuality one monopolized company with 30 franchises operating under it. As long as the league is profitable, individual franchises are pretty safe.

    I am not optimistic that Tilman will sell the team because of financial hardship unless he REALLY screws up. He will probably sell his other businesses before he sells the Rockets.
     
    joshuaao likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now