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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Nov 17, 2020.

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When would you expect the Rockets to make the playoffs and win a series again?

  1. This year

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  2. Next year

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  3. 3-5 years

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. 5-8 years

    26 vote(s)
    30.2%
  5. 8+ years

    26 vote(s)
    30.2%
  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    When would you expect the Rockets to make the playoffs and win a series again?

    Rocket River
     
  2. Reeko

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    Make the playoffs? 5+ years

    Win a series? 8+ years
     
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  3. DCkid

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    maybe in 5 years...maybe never
     
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  4. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Houston only fan
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    You need at least 10 yrs of sucking with good front office . 5 if you stick pile picks and commit to lottery diving those throw away yrs . Tilly won’t which is why it’ll be 20+
     
  5. rocketseagles07

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    Yea unless we stumble upon a crazy pick it's going to be 4 or 5 years.. for us to be competitive with no assets? Probably closer to a decade from now
     
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  6. alethios

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    Without Harden, it's going to take Silas & staff at least 3-5 years to build a winning team again. And some favorable picks along the way.
     
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  7. s3ts

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    How long ago was the last championship now?

    And.. uhh... When are we gonna get another MVP here?
     
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  8. Vivi

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    I think this is just impossible to say before we even know what we'll get back in the trades.
     
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  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    7-8 years most likely to win a series. Winter is coming.
     
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  10. BallSoHarden

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    I voted 8+, but I really think Tilman will not own this team within 2 years. It really depends on who the new owner is and his ability to hire the right people.
     
  11. harold bingo

    harold bingo Udoka Only Fan
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    This question is unanswerable without knowing what trades take place. What if we trade a Harden package for Jaylon Brown and Gordon Hayward? What if we trade him for Ben Simmons and Matisse Thybule? What if we get the shitty nets package? There are a lot of plausible scenarios where we unload everyone for picks and make the playoffs like...next year or even this year. I don't think it's really worth discussing until we see what all the trades look like.

    edit: looks like @Vivi already made this point
     
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  12. Pandaemonaeon

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    In the 15 seasons preceding Harden's arrival, 8 out of those we didn't make the playoffs and in the 7 that we did, we only went to the second round once.

    So... yeah. It's gonna be bleak. Maybe even moreso with Tillman as an owner.
     
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  13. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    if we tank really hard next year we only have a 50/50 chance of a top 4 pick next year. can't count on it. we will get two top rookies in 2022 and 2023. chances are only 1 of the two will develop into an all star. then how long will it take for him to develop and lead you to the playoffs? 3 years? without our own pick in 2024, 2025, 2026 there won't be much help for him. so maybe if we're still bad enough by 2027 and 2028 we can draft a solid partner for that guy. maybe they make the playoffs by 2030?

    sure you can hope to sign a max guy in FA before then but who is coming here to play for tilman knowing he doesn't pay to win? sure we can get a bankroll of picks for harden but I guarantee you the nets can sign max guys after KD and harden are off the books. even if we get their picks from '24-'27 there's no guarantee those will be lottery picks.
     
  14. rimrocker

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    With very few exceptions, you must have an MVP type talent to win in the NBA. Those are hard to find and this franchise is 1-for-3 in building enough around MVPs to get a championship. I have little confidence this owner will find another MVP-level player and absolutely no confidence he or his insipid offspring can build a championship team. The only way we get anywhere close to an MVP under this regime is dumb blind luck. Winter is coming folks--and it's going to be a long one.
     
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    Stone will build around Westbrick and make us an instant contender!!!!!!
     
  16. Patience

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    Caris Lavert? Championship here we come.
     
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    Just happy I was alive to witness the back-to-back championships. We're now more than 25 years removed from the last title. Another one doesn't look likely any time soon ...
     
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  18. lakersuck2

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    Tillman has to sell the team first. If he's still the owner, we'll be back here real quick.
     
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  19. ApacheWarrior

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    Remember when the Rockets were constantly coming in 9th in the West before the arrival of Harden.

    Welcome back 9th place and/or less. Rookie draft picks will get on the job training and then move.

    3 to 4 years and then excel with another team while we invest the money training them.
     
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  20. pr0wler

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    A lot of panic sellers here. I get it, I'm a bit pissed off too. But we weren't going to win against the two LA super teams, or the GSW coming back into the fold. And I haven't even got started with Dallas, Portland, Utah, or Denver who all could've potentially been better than us even if we had our full roster.

    I think the new GM is really good so far. He's got two picks for a 30 year old version of Trevor Ariza. He's not budging quickly on Westbrook or Harden. While it's not very fun in the short term to potentially miss the playoffs for a few years, the excitement of starting a new crew will have it's own thrill.

    While it's definitely a step down from 2018, the best time to move on is now before it's too late. It can only get better from here.
     
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