Now that Trump is defeated, how do you defeat Trumpism?

Trumpettes

 

Perhaps the most meaningful thing to come out of this election is accessibility. I don’t mean the number of people who voted, but the new measures that states and counties enacted to increase vote accessibility. Whether mail in, drive in, 24 hour voting locations. All of these things need to be maintained and I’m sure it scares the ever living hell out of republicans and is the key reason why trump is trying to delegitimize those vehicles.

in terms of ending trumpism, Lebron had the answer. It ends if it fails, not once, not twice...

 

You can't convince people they're wrong when they're hell bent in their ideology. It's like arguing against religious beliefs. You aren't going to get anywhere with the vast majority. My advice is arm up while there's still relative normal day to day functioning. IMO they will give up democracy before they give up their positions.

 

People don’t give a **** about climate change. The emphasis on developing carbonless energy should be centered around the economic benefits short term and long term. When people go in the voting booth they in general are selfish and vote accordingly.

The American people support sensible changes, but the Democratic Party is led by people that are out of touch with the majority of Americans. People want their money to stretch further, they want opportunities and they don’t want to be told their country sucks.

The political party that figures that out will exercise the most powerful. Right now the Democrats are discussing student loan forgiveness, and it is a concern. However how is that going to help blue collar Americans? How is that going to appeal at all to small towns all over America? So these people that went to college and make more money having done it, now don’t have to pay for it? That is not going to go over well.

The way to beat Trumpism is to get to the core of Trumpers... and why people vote for him. Why is populism (Palin/Early Obama/Trump) doing well?

 

Biden will probably get 8 years in office because of the right wing incompetence.

I always explain to people that Trump hijacked the RNC. Biden kind of did the same thing. But RNC won't be smart enough to find a good enough candidate for a while due to the damage that Trump did and how little the RNC appeals to the progressives.

Thats not to say Biden won't screw this up. I look at the list of **** the party wants and I just shake my head, they're going to have a really difficult time delivering on a lot of what they promised.

 

Same with healthcare in regards to climate change. There is an economic benefit for everyone if the country is healthy and people don't wait for costly medical emergencies which drives up everyone's costs in the long run

Stop arguing about socialistic ideas and just stick to economics because in the case of The Affordable Care Act, the actual goal of the legislation is to stop the trend of rising healthcare costs

 

People need to stop with this rhetoric. Trump did the same thing every Republican candidate does. He circled the wagons around conservative ideology. He didn't lose by much. He actually circled the wagons better than Bush 1 or 2 and had a Reagan like idealism following.

That is the GOP, its how they operate, their constituents aren't dying off, this country will always have people who live and die by conservative ideology

The Democrats have to fight back with economic practicality.

On Hispanics and immigration we just have to wait for Republicans to have their come to Jesus moment

 

Time will erase some of the Trump culture.

 

This has surpassed populism IMO.
They want a superstar, either charismatic or bold and narcissistic.

Either a total divider or total uniter of people, there is not much middle grounds.

Those boring yet decent politicians have a hard time getting to the finish line.

 

By directing their frustrations which at the root is economic based from immigrants and other minority groups to corporations and corrupt politicians. You have to convince them we are on the same side. There are plenty of struggling rural and midwestern communties that have been devastated from automation, outsourcing and the opioid epediemic. We have to somehow direct that rightful frustration from migrants to corporations and grifting politicians. That's how you win then over. You acknowledge their hardships and actually make a case by spending time with them that the enemy isn't "AOC" or communists, it's Amazon, Exxon, corporate lobbyists etc.

Convince them it's poor vs rich instead of tradional American vs "the other".

I also understand how nearly impossible this is because those that need to be convinced have a filter of ring wing media that is in the way. I just don't know what to doctor get through that media bubble.

 

Since the election people keep talking about Trumpism. But what is trumpism? How do you define it? He has taken both sides on damn near every issue it’s hard to peg it down. He ran as a populist in 2016 but for the most governed as a typical Republican minus the trade war.

 

McConnell discreetly taking shots at Trump via praising Biden's transparency, honesty and dependability. What a mess the Trump administration really was.

I really think Trump and some of insane supporters will try to sabotage the United States with the 2 and half months of executive power he has left. He still has access to nuclear codes and top security clearance to do some damage. Based on his prior and present behavior, this a real possibility.

 

Progressive democratic candidates did well this election, for the most part.

it’s a little chicken and egg... they hail from progressive areas seemingly... but not quite as correlated there as some might think.

in other words, the Dems that lost ran bad campaigns that didn’t focus enough in stuff that moves the needle and fights back against the republican marketing/branding machine.

From all the polling I’ve seen, when politics are in no way introduced, most Americans actually agree on tons of issues... and where they don’t it’s not as stark a difference as it would seem... rather it’s differences on the margins and in implementation. See gun control or healthcare.

that aside... education?? republicans like to call democrats “elitists” or “coastal elite”... because elite was the word they came up with to brand Democrats in a seemingly negative way, when what they really meant was educated.
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/essay/the-growing-partisan-divide-in-views-of-higher-education/

Maybe republicans/trumpers are going to take this to the extreme though and stop educating themselves?

I’m not 100% sure the answer ... however personally my preference would be for Democrats to gain full control of Congress and push through lots of sweeping reform - on climate, on the electoral college, on term limits, on gun control, on court packing, etc, etc. then to simultaneously get way way better at branding/marketing.

the risk of the above is that indeed we are back with a Trump like president in 4+ years.

the upside is that the ****ed up way we elect our politicians and district our country to represent us (please please please see the insane districting maps of Texas) is fixed, and the will of the majority (winning 7 of the last 8 presidential elections) is better reflected. And for those 70 million who voted for Trump... they will be perfectly fine because it’s not like any of these policies are harmful to them.

 

Also I pray Biden doesn't try to pass any type of weapons ban. Don't create more single issue voters.

One of the biggest hurdles for the poor white blue collar demo jumping to the Democrat platform is gun debate rhetoric from the Democrats.

 

I’m gonna support President Biden and hope he does well because if he does well, I do well and I’m selfish like many Americans...I want to continue doing well. I want my home value to keep going up, I want the business I started during the Trump era that has been great to continue to do well and be profitable. I want my daughters college bill paid off, sure I’ll take that ...less my money I need to spend. I want a more United States...I want to date a hot post op trans female if my wife ever leaves me without fear or condemnation. I want government universal health care but I also don’t want my gun rights infringed. I want incentives for businesses to stay in America...I want us to embrace differences while being willing to compromise on how we get to the shiny house on the hill. I want progress and jobs and a willingness to understand we are flawed people under God and that we shouldn’t assume and shouldn’t judge but spend more time willing to listen to what is important and why things are important then that’s how we beat trumpism . Now some SOB post me a pic of Ruth. Amen and god bless the United States !