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A little number crunching

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by leebigez, Apr 16, 2004.

  1. leebigez

    leebigez Member

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    I'm not really a guy who likes to use numbers to make a point, but alot of times the numbers don't lie. Its another thread thats going pretty good about the Francis/Mobley backcourt. I went to the archives and pulled up some interesting stats from previous playoff and championship teams. The obvious difference is Yao is not Hakeem,which we all know, but i just wanted to illustrate about the importance of having guards who operate in a inside out game and the value of possessions.

    The Backcourt of Maxwell/Smith from 92-95:
    12.32ppg 4.6asst 1.92to

    Maloney/Drexler 1997
    13ppg 4.7asst 2.0to

    Francis/Mobley 2004
    15.79 4.70asst 3.0to

    The best yrs of this franchise and even with non playmaking players like Maloney and erractic play like Maxwell, those backcourt still to'ed the ball less than the current one. If we were to bring a McGrady/Lue backcourt to the team, here's what we're looking at:

    19ppg 4.85asst 2.15to. Just thought i'd throw that out.
     
  2. Tb-Cain

    Tb-Cain Member

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    Is it just me? What do these numbers mean? I can't figure out how Francis/Mobley equate to 15.79 ppg. Or how Drexler/Maloney had only 13 ppg.
     
  3. ty185

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    it seems it's the average of the combo instead of the sum... :)
     
  4. Kayman

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    This is interesting. Compared to Kenny/Vernon the current backcourt scores ~7 more point-per-game and has ~2 more TOs per game. Compared to Clyde/Maloney the current guards score ~5 more ppg and have ~2 more TOs. Just looking at this data you can't draw any conclusions. Obviously the two extra posessions that the oposing team gets are not enough to compansate for the higher scoring of Cat/SF3, since no team in the NBA has ever avearged 3.5 or 2.5 points per posession. If you wanted to prove something with this data it is lost on me...
     
  5. HoRockets

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    Good point made, except to add that it's actually 1.0 - 1.02 turnover difference, not two. It just doesn't stick out enough to make a clear point.
     
  6. Rivaldo2181

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    Someone has too much time on their hands...wish had that kind of time.
     
  7. KeepKenny

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    well when you consider that most of our turnovers lead to easy fastbreak baskets the other way, i can see how 2 extra turnovers could make quite a difference. We lose about 2 points on average, and the other team gets points as well.
     

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